I often wonder if people have forgotten that you can send information through the internet without HTTP(S)

miohtama 4 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You can, but every non web protocol would need the user to install a binary. This is gated by Microsoft, Google and Apple today.

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wmf 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you ever want to implement a protocol in the browser it has to be on top of HTTP, WebSocket, WebRTC, WebTransport, etc.

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qznc an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I assume for anything else someone will run into firewall/proxy issues.

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thesuitonym an hour ago | parent [-]

That's such a non-issue, though. And using HTTP doesn't guarantee you won't run into firewall/proxy issues.

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embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Since others starting intercepting and eavesdrop on non-authenticated traffic, it got a lot less comfy to do so though. It's not like people are adding encryption to stuff for the fun of it.

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mghackerlady 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

it's not impossible to implement encryption elsewhere, gemini pretty famously requires it

	▲	embedding-shape 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Of course not, the context here is ATProto which literally stands for "Authenticated Transfer Protocol", and it uses other protocols than just http/tls, so of course there are other ways :)

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riffic 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it seems the parent comment isn't referring directly to encryption / TLS, but building everything on top of HTTP / HTTPS, which seems to be the default abstraction these days to build on top of.

	▲	rapnie 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I agree, it is always HTTP nowadays. The Librecast project [0] is doing interesting R&D around multicast and social networking, and has been / is being funded by multiple NLnet grants over the years. I think they have plans to use ActivityPub to demonstrate their work. Current active project is LibreCast Studio, a collaboration environment. The linked video on the page is a very interesting watch. [0] https://librecast.net/about.html