In terms of fines if they do not pay the fine their country is at risk of sanctions or embargoes which is probably a bit heavy handed but may incentivize their government to also enforce the rules, collect fines keeping some for themselves and passing the original fine back to the countries implementing child safety controls.

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filoleg 2 days ago | parent [-]

This is extremely naive and short-sighted. There is a literal example of this happening rn, and hopefully you will see why your approach isn't that good.

UK's OFCOM is currenly issuing legal threats to 4chan, for allegedly serving adult content and not willing to implement age verification. 4chan's lawyer tells them to pound sand[0], on the basis that 4chan is hosted in the US and has zero business presence in the UK, and UK is more than welcome to ban the website on their end through UK ISPs. The saga has been ongoing for a while, and the lawyer has been pretty prolific online talking about the case.

Anyway, following your approach, UK should embargo US over 4chan not willing to implement age verification as required by UK law? I plainly don't see this happening, or even being considered, ever.

0. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c624330lg1ko

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Bender 2 days ago | parent [-]

4chan servers are in the US and the owner is in Japan. If the US wanted to they could seize all the servers but they will not because they have real time monitoring of all activity on the boards and have ever since Christopher testified before congress and the site was sold. If anything 5-eyes want that site to be unrestricted. 4chan has been a goldmine of people self reporting for wanting to shoot up or bomb places, as has Reddit leading to many body-cam videos of the site users and in some cases the moderators being busted.

The IP addresses are all captured by Cloudflare. It is literally next to impossible to post on 4chan without enabling javascript on Cloudflare or buying a 4chan-pass which leaves a money trail not perfect, nothing is but most mentally unstable people do not think these things through.

Should legislation be added to require the RTA header 4chan could and likely would add it in a heart-beat. They already have some decent security headers in place.

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filoleg 17 hours ago | parent [-]

> If the US wanted to they could seize all the servers

Are you sure you didn't misread what I said? Asking because I am not sure how what you are saying has anything to do with my point.

Why would the US even consider seizing the servers? 4chan isn't breaking any US laws, and US indicated zero interest in pursuing 4chan.

The case I am describing is about 4chan breaking UK laws (by refusing to implement age verification), and UK OFCOM is threatening 4chan with fines and more. 4chan, as you said, is located in the US, so they claim they don't care about what UK wants, and that 4chan won't implement age verification due to 4chan not having such a requirement under their operating jurisdiction (US).

The only thing UK can do is block 4chan within their country, and that's pretty much it.

	▲	Bender 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		4chan isn't breaking any US laws They break US laws every single day. Every loli in /b/ and /gif/ thread violate several laws and yes people do debate this endlessly which I will not, discuss that with lawyers that deal with CSAM. On that alone they could easily seize all the servers if they wanted to but that will never happen because like I said it's an goldmine for people self reporting they are going to shoot up a place or show intent for a myriad of other crimes. The feds would never throw away such an easy mode treasure trove nor would I expect them to. The site started glowing hard in 2008 and glowed even harder after 2012. I even showed people how to extract IP addresses using the hashes in the thread and post ID prior to their moving to Cloudflare and the users still went into full cope. All of this aside it would be trivial to add the RTA header to the entire site. They could add it in the Cloudflare interface in a few seconds. It would cost them nothing. Only groomers would have their jimmies rustled even despite most of the groomers having moved to Roblox.