| ▲ | advisedwang 6 hours ago |
| Those two things are in fact different. Does requiring a VIN on a car mean that cars are banned? |
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| ▲ | iamnothere 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You don’t actually need a VIN on a car, you just won’t be able to register and drive a VINless car on public roads. Some states seem to have designated even private roads as “public” if there is uncontrolled access (seems ripe for a court challenge though). But offroading or gated roads would be fine even here. Some YouTubers have fun importing cheap Chinese cars that aren’t street legal and destroying them with extreme offroading. |
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| ▲ | autoexec 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > You don’t actually need a VIN on a car, you just won’t be able to register and drive a VINless car on public roads. Somehow I doubt that many 2nd amendment supporters would be okay with "You don't need a registration number on your gun, it'll just be illegal to carry/use it anywhere except private property" | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Some would, some wouldn’t. There are some who only care about home defense or sport shooting on private land. Open carry and CCW folks would be quite upset, yes. The biggest problem with this (for the first group) would be conveyance from buyer to seller or to/from a range or hunting grounds. |
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| ▲ | Sohcahtoa82 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Car/traffic laws don't apply on personal property (Though noise ordinances still would), but that won't stop cops from trying to ticket you anyways. https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/dep350/receive... | | |
| ▲ | 15155 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | FWIW: this isn't a universally-applicable statement, plenty of states forbid DWI during any and all operation of motor vehicles, including on private property. | | |
| ▲ | chroma 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think in almost all states DUI applies to private roads accessible to the public, such as parking lots and driveways. Mythbusters drove drunk on a closed course in California and that was legal. Only a few states absolutely forbid operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated (I know Washington is one). That said, you’d have to do something pretty absurd to attract the attention of law enforcement if you’re staying on your own land. | | |
| ▲ | kotaKat 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | If they didn't want you to drink, John Deere wouldn't have put a cupholder on it. C'mon, that's entrapment! |
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| ▲ | doubled112 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ontario, Canada has stunt driving laws that extend past the road to parking lots, farmer's fields, and more. | | | |
| ▲ | sidewndr46 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is most definitely completely false. All EPA laws apply to all vehicles originally sold as road legal forever. |
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| ▲ | chroma 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Do F1 cars have VINs? I’m pretty sure you don’t need a VIN on a car if it stays off public roads. Also driving is not a right enshrined by the constitution. |
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| ▲ | jp191919 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Well, One is a right, the other is a privilege. |
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| ▲ | bigbadfeline an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Does requiring a VIN on a car mean that cars are banned? Of course, Chinese cars in the US are effectively banned by regulations. Proof that VIN can be used for banning. |
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| ▲ | 15155 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Tell me you have never actually read the statute without telling me. Per the statute text, you may not manufacture a firearm for personal use in Colorado: the statute requires an FFL's license number (which you do not have) to be placed in the serial number string. FFLs didn't exist in 1790 - therefore this fails Bruen among other standards. |
