| ▲ | Ifkaluva 5 hours ago | |||||||
The best way to not be in a digital cage is to opt out of the current digital products. Would that be such a bad thing? Frankly I would welcome a world in which kids are not using Instagram or TikTok. They don’t have to live in a cage if we don’t let them in the cage. Personally, my plan is that when age verification laws get passed, every service that requires ID is a service I stop using. And I expect my life to be better for it! | ||||||||
| ▲ | noah_buddy 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||
What if all services require ID? Let’s take a basic example: Wikipedia, which hosts pornography, easily could be a target of such legislation. Now there is infrastructure in place to know when you read about “Criticisms of policy X” and maybe it’s handled safely or maybe it’s handed directly to the government. What about news? It’s a hop skip and leap from “age verify pornography with ID” to “age verify content about sexual abuse or violence.” Now the infrastructure is in place to see the alt-news criticisms you read. Twitch or YouTube wouldn’t even wait to comply, ID verification is something that these corporations are already perfectly fine with. Now, you watching a history of your government’s crimes is a potentially tracked red flag that you’re a dissident to be watched. Do you think if this sort of legislation is enacted, it will stop at large websites? It will be an excuse used by the government and supported by big tech firms to shut down any small websites which don’t comply. After all, Google, MS, et al, they would rather that your entire concept of the internet start and end in a service they control. | ||||||||
| ▲ | matheusmoreira 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||
> The best way to not be in a digital cage is to opt out of the current digital products. But will your friends and family opt out? Their phones are always listening. They can just as easily listen to you, even if you go to great pains not to expose yourself to technology. They'll make a shadow profile of any avoidant user whether they want it or not. | ||||||||
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| ▲ | pessimizer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||
> The best way to not be in a digital cage is to opt out of the current digital products. Bullshit. These are all-encompassing monopolies and government services. More likely, they'll ban you and you'll end up having to go to court out of desperation to demand that they service you. This is very limited thinking. If you lacked this sort of imagination 20 years ago, you wouldn't have been able to predict today. > Frankly I would welcome a world in which kids are not using Instagram or TikTok. This is the sort of passive reactionary nonsense that causes the danger that we're in. Everything isn't something to give up lightly, even if you think that it will force your neighbor to turn his music down, or get rid of bad reality television. I don't like kids on social media either. I don't like adults on it. I think kids are suffering more from surveillance than from TikTok. | ||||||||