I'm afraid that atproto will suffer from Bluesky's irrelevance. Not sure if that's a valid fear.

In what sense is bluesky irrelevant in this context? It's obviously not Twitter scale, but no alternative to GitHub will be GitHub scale for a long time to come either...

And it does seem to have the right feature set. Not sure which other social graph/network you could reasonably build a GitHub alternative around that would be less irrelevant....

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FatFingers23 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fair enough! We are a pretty small ecosystem all in all. I will say in Tangled's case their infrastructure is separate from Bluesky's for the most part, and the rest can be switched easily enough if ever needed.

One example is if you don't care anything about atproto, you can create a new account on Tangled's website that creates the account on their servers, but thanks to how atproto works it's just like you made one on Bluesky and can still interact with Tangled and everyone on the protocol for it's social features.

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graybeardhacker 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everything is irrelevant until it isn't. Then it isn't until it is. If we all do our part, X will become irrelevant.

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renticulous an hour ago | parent [-]

Aren't we reinventing what were forums in pre smartphone days?

	▲	jauntywundrkind 5 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Those were all isolated places, where you needed an account for that specific forum (whereas you can use your PDS anywhere), where that forum held your data (whereas you hold your atproto data), where you were subject to the moderation decisions of that forum (whereas you have control over your PDS (but not other people's clients)). Pretty unclear what your comment is trying to indicate but it sure feels very different to me, and I've offered some characterizations for why. More generally, atproto is useful for all kinds of tech, solves a cold start social network problem. Aren't we reinventing forums, and tv watching, and book reviews, and trail maps, and photo sharing, and streaming and note taking and containers and git hosting? Yes. Yes we are. (Under a common protocol set, in a way that respects users unlike everything else that's happened online so far.)

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mikey_p an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We're not discussing social networks though, this is about Git project hosting. Bluesky doesn't have to compete with Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok or any of that for Tangled to be useful.

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0x457 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

atproto will suffer from centralization via Bluesky and its user wanting it to be centralized.