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qsera 6 hours ago

It is interesting.

Is the job of a leader (or the administration) to foresee threats before anyone else can see it coming? Is their job to make sure that it does not manifest?

It is interesting that when they does it, the majority is against it, precisely because no one else could see it and can agree with the action of the administration?

So it seems that if someone is a very good leader, they will be ridiculed by the very people they are trying to protect. I think this happens if the unit in question is a family, or a country.

I am not picking sides in the on going crisis. But just making an observation.

howmayiannoyyou 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Exactly.

- Many cannot accept its dangerous world.

- Many don't understand that stewardship of nuclear weapons alone is a major undertaking that Iran cannot be trusted to manage. US & USSR alone has several near-miss detonations/launches.

- Many will refuse to accept solely because 'orange man bad'.

- Some are paid to criticize on influential online forums and HN makes no effort to moderate or police such activity.

Arodex 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I guess you will be first in line for the invasion of North Korea, then?

bigyabai 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Many cannot accept its dangerous world.

The ballistic missiles are the danger, and Iran already has those. There is no missile or reentry vehicle in Iran's possession that can credibly threaten the United States with a nuclear weapon.

> US & USSR alone has several near-miss detonations/launches.

According to Seymour Hersh, Israel was close to using their nuclear weapon as well. Why not focus on their disarmament first to deter Iranian retaliation?

> Some are paid to criticize on influential online forums and HN makes no effort to moderate or police such activity.

Please reread HN's guidelines if you don't want to be permabanned: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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_DeadFred_ 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yesterday the Iranian embassy in the UK called for attacks in the UK. Today there were stabbings. Iran likes to demonstrate that they can reach out a touch someone.

bigyabai 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Case in point. Clearly neither of those are nuclear-level threats, the IRGC and Mossad have both fomented public violence for decades at this point.

Their Tom & Jerry reenactment is not casus belli for the US or Europe. You'll note that no Article 4 has been invoked over Iran because it's not a legitimate security concern for any of NATO's members.