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mrits 2 days ago

It's so odd to me that people think the cost of oil going up is universally bad. It's good both morally for me and financially for many people.

hgoel 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The consequences to everyone that isn't as well fed as yourself are also good for you morally?

mrits 2 days ago | parent [-]

Nothing keeps the people well feed like the inability to grow crops.

Detrytus 2 days ago | parent [-]

Funny that you say that, because LNG exports from Persian gulf being blocked will result in fertilizer shortages and potentially a famine.

mrits a day ago | parent [-]

More short term thinking

Detrytus a day ago | parent [-]

Well, it seems to me that the liberal left agenda was kind of hijacked by big corporations. It used to be that Democrats cared about things like equal pay, labor conditions, education costs. Now it is all about abstract things that don’t matter in the real world: animal rights and carbon emissions.

The “long term thinking” you allude to is just a mind trick to keep you at bay.

AlexCoventry 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think people are more concerned about the massive deindustrialization and famines which could result from the Strait of Hormuz being chaotically strangled, not the hit to their pocket books at the gas pump

joquarky 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What's it like living without worry?

vixen99 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Me too. I'm surprised those in the Green Movements generally, haven't been celebrating. Not a whisper. Makes one wonder.

epistasis 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

"Green movements" look for a planned transition away from oil that doesn't cause worldwide economic disaster. The whole motivation is to prevent human suffering, not increase it.

That this makes you wonder indicates that you fundamentally misunderstand the entire point of environmental movements.

Further, even if there was "celebrating" how would you know? Are you involved with the groups politically working towards those ends? Perhaps you should question your information diet, rather than assuming that your information diet is representative of reality.

0cf8612b2e1e 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It is nice to be rich. People in India and Asia are heavily reliant upon oil and gas coming through the strait. When prices shoot up by a multiple, guess what happens? The poorest people have to do without cooking gas. “Rationing” is a cute word to mean the poor take the hit on the chin.

There is enormous, real suffering hitting those who can least handle it.

Edit: I would add that those in the renewables industry are absolutely making lemonade off the situation. Energy analysts agree that short term profits will go up, but long term, everyone is going to be running to renewables. No country wants to have this existential fuel disruption risk hanging over their heads.