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Oil price jumps to $117 after reports of 'extended' Iran blockade(bbc.com)
17 points by tartoran 5 hours ago | 17 comments
bediger4000 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Do Trump's actions make any sense at all? During Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Bush, Obama and Biden seemed to have some goals, and some strategic planning. Trump looks like he's just winging it.

heyitsmedotjayb 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He is making it up day by day. We all just watched America lose a war.

leereeves 5 hours ago | parent [-]

In what way did America lose?

America actually profits from the high oil prices as a net exporter.

UncleMeat an hour ago | parent | next [-]

American oil companies maybe. But America?

ngetchell 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most Americans don't profit. A very small few do.

leereeves 5 hours ago | parent [-]

You could say the same thing about Silicon Valley.

b--l 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you assume he is being blackmailed then it makes sense. On any other level it does not.

AnimalMuppet 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, he could just be a flaming narcissist, doing whatever he thinks makes him look the best for the next five minutes.

Or he could be running scared of the Epstein files, and desperate to do something - anything - to distract the public.

Or he could just think that his superficial level of understanding is deeper than everyone else's, so anyone who disagrees is wrong or stupid or both.

Or he could know that he doesn't know, but think that he has to look like he knows, because if the image cracks, it's all over.

So, no, blackmail is not the only option that makes sense.

beardyw 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Perhaps he will say he's sorry.

GJim 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Whilst wearing a suit.

fuzzfactor 4 hours ago | parent [-]

C'mon, he's more than a mere clothes horse with a wardrobe.

There's also makeup.

He's obviously got his own high-dollar custom color pallette now, and more-accomplished artists to better co-ordinate with the costumes and the lighting.

No more looking like the average person with that run-of-the-mill plain commodity orange.

johng 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Does keeping Iran from having Nuclear weapons make sense?

Does keeping Iran from paying terrorists make sense?

Does keeping Iran and it's proxies from killing Americans and civilians from other countries make sense?

All of those things make sense to me. This needed to be done long ago. Every single administration said so.... it's clear as day. But, he finally did it. In a decisive way. I would gladly pay a bit more at the pump so end all of the above.

Now, think of all the protests and political backlash that he got for not helping Palestine more. What Iran is doing to their own people is much worse, IMHO. Not a peep about it from most people. No campuses shut down. No riots. No walk outs.... because it's not Israel doing it.

Go talk to someone from Iran... someone who has family there. They all support Trump on this issue.

This needed to be done. It amazes me how many Americans want us to lose simply because it's Orange Man doing it.

tartoran 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

U.S. war in Iran has cost $25B so far [1]. Was that worth it? Did it help with anything? Is the Horumuz strait open? This looks like a disaster that is about to sink the US economically

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47949897 [1]

GJim 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Does keeping Iran from having Nuclear weapons make sense

Why do (some!) Americans insist on believing Iran was going to obtain nuclear weapons? Netanyahu is repeating the line "Iran will have a nuke in 2 months" for 30 years. American intelligence also showed that Iran was nowhere near building a nuclear weapon.

Frankly, a better question would be to ask why Mango Mussolini tore up the 2016 Iran Nuclear deal (JCPOA).... most likely because it was made by his predecessor.

johng 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The fact that Iran themselves admitted it, and so has the IAEA. You can hate on Trump all you want but this is without dispute. If they weren't trying so hard to create nuclear weapons, they'd surely agree not to.

I notice no one addressed the issue of them killing 40,000+ of their own citizens.

bediger4000 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Iran is a sovereign nation. Many such are killing tons of their civilians. South Sudan comes to mind instantly. Many sovereign nations have killed that many or more of their own citizens, Myanmar and Cambodia for example, and the USA has not intervened. Part of Trump's campaign promises related to the USA not being the world's policeman, this issue strikes me as another propaganda red herring.

bediger4000 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If nuclear weapons was an issue, Trump blew up a cheaper far less disruptive agreement his first term. If that's an issue, it's one of his own making.

The "terrorist" business? I've seen a rotating cast of "terrorists" over the years. That's pretty obviously villain of the moment propaganda.