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| ▲ | brookst a day ago | parent [-] | | Did you just move the goalposts from “you can’t run arbitrary code today” to “hypothetically, in the future, Apple could prevent running arbitrary code”? | | |
| ▲ | jlokier a day ago | parent | next [-] | | As with Google accounts, it's not hypothetical, it's a risk. People do occasionally get locked out of being an Apple developer for reasons they cannot foresee. > Apple has locked my Apple ID, and I have no recourse. A plea for help* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46252114 > Apple bans entire dev account, no reason given https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44601548 | | |
| ▲ | brookst a day ago | parent [-] | | It’s still rhetorical sleight of hand. I could have a stroke that leaves me unable to program. Does that mean I am not truly free to program today? Those are risks, but they do not change the on-the-ground reality today, and the claim was that users, today, cannot use these device as general purpose computers. | | |
| ▲ | ivell a day ago | parent | next [-] | | We can use them today as general purpose computers, if we make a large effort to do so. In my Linux and Mac, I dont think twice to quickly write a script to automate some pain-in-the-butt issues. But with my phone, it is pain-in-the-butt to write anything. It becomes not worth the effort. Moreover, we can argue if technically it is a general purpose computer for whole day long. But that's not the point. The point is that we are allowing gradually the big organizations to restrict general purpose computing, the internet and other previously free systems. It is happening slowly, where we can still give them the benefit of doubt. We are the frogs in the kettle where we are arguing that the temperature is just one degree more than earlier, so it is not actually boiling. We can keep on arguing about the temperature or step back and see the big picture where it is going. | |
| ▲ | ulrikrasmussen a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No it's not. I need permission by a third-party to be able to program a device I supposedly own. I need to give them money, I need to give them my identity, and I need to tie my identity to any distribution of the software I make if other people are to be able to install it. This is not a rhetorical sleight of hand, this is just saying that I am not truly in control of the device that I have bought. | |
| ▲ | tremon a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | The rhetorical sleight of hand is yours, by claiming that a device requiring pre-authorization (by virtue of needing a developer account) is an open computing platform. |
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| ▲ | engeljohnb a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Anything that needs Apple to say "yes" before it runs is not "arbitrary." |
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