| ▲ | fabian2k 11 hours ago |
| > But the U.S. has made it clear that it wants to concentrate on the Indo-Pacific and the threat posed by China's powerful military, rather than propping up Europe. If that were true they wouldn't have wasted enormous amounts of expensive ammunition in Iran. |
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| ▲ | nolok 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| One, I feel like the "propping up Europe" is preposterous when europe is buying those things, not getting them for free, just like american weapon delivery to Ukraine have been paid by europe and not free for a long while now. Two, the US wasting of ammunition in an ill-prepared fight against Iran that has not produced any of the result they claim to want but managed to make things instable for a lot of the world has nothing to do with helping Europe. |
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| ▲ | XorNot 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Every year for like the last decade I've heard "pivot to China" proceeded by the US using its various European bases to attack something in the Middle East. | | |
| ▲ | angry_octet 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | At the behest of Israel. | |
| ▲ | nolok 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | But even worse in this specific case is "we do it for Europe" seems to be the thing they keep repeating, but if they had bothered to ask or warn us we all would have told them to stay the hell away from it, don't touch it, don't start it, no absolutely not. One country even asked them publicly why didn't you warn us and Trump's only answer was some stupid comment about pearl harbor. This is so absurd. |
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| ▲ | kakacik 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ukraine soldiers had some comments on US military guidelines for use of patriots that they saw in this war - incredibly wasteful, where up to 10-15 rockets are used per 1 incoming shahed. They just set the system in automatic mode, let it select targets and fire at its will, and run for the bunker. Ukrainians, having very little of those (or nothing now), used 1 patriot missile per 1 boogey with little drop in effectiveness, and whole crew remained in and guided it manually. According to them system is built to be wasteful to increase those interception numbers marginally, but for anything but short exchange its a very bad design mistake that can be easily overwhelmed or depleted, as seen trivially exploitable by enemy. | | |
| ▲ | serallak 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ukraine government also issued a statement saying that the US forces used 800 Patriot interceptors against Iran in three days at the start of the current war. While Ukraine used just 600 interceptors in 4 years of war. |
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| ▲ | Kampfschnitzel 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Iran is imo. in parts about china. Controlling the strait of Hormuz means controlling a significant amount of energy supplies if china. Same thing with Venezuela. |
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