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pstuart a day ago

I brought this up with my MAGA friend about the earlier Jimmy Kimmel skirmish and he trotted out how Roseanne Barr was dismissed from her show on ABC because of her offensive tweet, and that according to informed sources (Barr herself), that her dismissal was ordered by Michelle Obama. Then he went on to list a litany of hurts by cancel culture.

When I noted there was a difference in the situation and this was literally a textbook First Amendment issue, that was ignored.

This guy is highly intelligent but also an evangelical Christian -- we literally live in different universes and he has zero interest in challenging his assumptions. It's heartbreaking that he's like this and so are tens of millions of others.

rexpop a day ago | parent | next [-]

> This guy is highly intelligent

> There's literally nothing I could say that would make him examine the situation from a different angle.

I feel like you need to examine your definition of "intelligent" from a different angle.

datsci_est_2015 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think “competent” and “capable” are synonyms that should receive more usage in the place of “intelligent”.

pstuart 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

My definition of "intelligent" is native cognitive capacity. My definition of "stupid" is the failure to use one's intelligence.

I consider myself to be relatively intelligent and yet I am not immune to being stupid.

Because my friend is a devout evangelical (his father was a preacher), he's been deeply indoctrinated. It's my contention that religion by design makes one stupid: "do not question things, respect authority".

In evangelical circles it's my understanding that children are indoctrinated to treat "outsiders" as ungodly and to be avoided, let alone engaged with. This lines up with his behavior too.

techblueberry a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tell your MAGA friend if Trump is going to censor people he should be better at hiding it so they don’t trigger first amendment concerns. This is the first time I’m hearing Michelle Obama got Barr fired!

pstuart a day ago | parent [-]

That's the thing. I can't tell him anything that he doesn't already believe. The programming is so deep that I think it's part of his identity and any questioning of his beliefs is taken as a personal attack.

I wish I could find some way to engage but I every time I try it becomes more and more clear that there's literally nothing I could say that would make him examine the situation from a different angle. Fox News has done its work well.

techblueberry 10 hours ago | parent [-]

I have MAGA family so I sympathize.

sieabahlpark a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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