> Github has always been non-free software hosted by someone else, and run according to its owners' rules and for its owners' benefit, not ultimately the end user. This was true in 2008 and it's true today.

Yup. At KDE we never seriously considered GitHub. We always built our own git infra, and eventually landed on GitLab, after banding together with Gnome and a (generous and forthcoming) GitLab to convince them to move everything we needed from the Enterprise Edition to the free software Community edition.

I think we've had exactly one multi-hour git outage in 16 years.

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paulryanrogers 7 hours ago | parent [-]

GitLab cloud lost some of my projects. And it was (is?) quite slow. Props to those who can keep it running self hosted.

	▲	crimsonnoodle58 an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It can be run as a single docker container, so it's actually very easy to self host. Occasionally it'll get into a 500 conniption and needs a restart, but you can create a healthcheck for that.
	▲	c-hendricks 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		It's actually much faster when self hosted, even on modest hardware. And it's not _that_ bad to manage with docker (for how much it provides).