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throwaway894345 a day ago

> Capitalism winning does not show it is better as there are a lot more factors. ... Google could have built something else and they still would have succeeded at doing what they did.

Maybe Google could have built something better than Kubernetes, but my point was that this doesn't do me any good. I can't _use_ the hypothetical better-than-Kubernetes product because it's hypothetical. So in the world of things that actually exist, Kubernetes is best in class despite the many valid criticisms of it.

> In my opinion, everything you wrote are opinions

Yes, my comment was my opinion.

> Installing and managing rke on bare metal was more difficult than doing the same with nomad for me.

Maybe Nomad is better. I haven't used it. I'm skeptical that it has the ecosystem breadth that Kubernetes has, but I'm happy to be wrong.

> Or another example, installing clickhouse using apt was easier and worked better than doing it with docker.

That's not really a useful comparison because (1) a system typically involves a lot more than just a singular database and (2) running a system involves a lot more than getting the software onto the machine. If you want to make a meaningful comparison, you need something like Ansible or Cloud Init to invoke apt and to wire everything together and at that point Kubernetes is _likely_ already easier. Especially when you consider logs, metrics, certificates, DNS, etc.