If you cant beat them join them

rootusrootus 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If you are stuck in a walled garden either way, might at least try to get the benefits of it.

orthecreedence 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The iOS app store is like the craigslist personals of online markets. I feel incredibly dirty just going on there. I have to scroll down 3-5 options just to find the exact match for what I searched for, many of the prioritized options being look-alikes that could easily fool people into installing some malware-esque garbage.

I love my 13 mini as a phone, but I don't understand how anyone could compare the two app stores and think iOS comes out on top. At least android has f-droid.

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rootusrootus 2 days ago | parent [-]

I almost never go to the app store to find an app, but I can understand how that would be really frustrating. Sounds like they need to get serious about curating the app store content.

From my perspective, the walled garden value I get is predominantly in the integrations between my phone, macbook, and watch. And to a lesser extent (because it's a bit buggy at times) the family integrations.

	▲	orthecreedence 18 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Integrations makes sense, but I'm 100% sold on linux/PCs at this point and I don't care about wearables so my phone is just a phone. Luckily I'm not on the app store much, but if the walled garden is a cesspool already then maybe opening the gates a bit isn't such a bad idea.

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catlikesshrimp 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Includes status symbol and ecosystem lock!

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rootusrootus 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

If it is a status symbol, it really ain't working for me. I must be doing something wrong.

	▲	wolvoleo a day ago \| parent [-]
		It depends where. In Spain people use it for that because iPhones are incredibly expensive here compared to the standard of living. What doesn't help is that the SE/e models are also way more expensive than in the US. As a result it's mainly rich people and tourists that own them. Most people use budget android phones, the kind that still come with 3,5mm jacks. You still see wired earphones a lot.

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pocksuppet 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So does Android, but without the status symbol, the high res screen, or the integration with your laptop.

	▲	estebank 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		I haven't found the need for deeper integration with my laptop beyond what KDE connect is capable of, and my Pixel has a high enough resolution that I can't notice pixels :)

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pestat0m 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It's probably worth mentioning that as far as i know this change does not affect AOSP phones[1]. I'm currently living with a Kyocera flip-phone[3] for the past few years. I even got F-droid installed, though it turned out to not work all that great on a flip. I wish more people wrote apps for flips. I keep intending to look into writing my own APK if i ever get the chance. As i understand it, it's a bit like The Wild West, though there are places where you can get flip-phone apps[2] like maps, media players, messengers, etc.. i just never seem to have time to look more into this(and i'm a little concerned about getting scammed). I did manage recently to successfully tether my old touch-phone to my flip for a car trip i took, so i could get data to the touch and run maps(i feel somewhat clever to have sidestepped Big Tech on that issue). Hopefully i'll get some time one day to look more into flip-apps.

[1] https://source.android.com/

[2] https://www.apkmirror.com/

[3] https://www.kyoceramobile.com/rugged-devices/duraxv-extreme-...