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declan_roberts 2 days ago

Thankfully Russia, China, etc have the same qualms as we do in the United States and will refused to send their brightest engineers to work on weapons so they don't become "morally compromised"!!!

titzer 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think the long-term game theory of race to the bottom works out quite how you think.

"Our enemies would have no qualms building a weapon that will end life on earth! We better build it first because we're the good guys!"

declan_roberts 2 days ago | parent [-]

Послушайте этого парня!

yibg 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We also used to point to Russia and China as places we don't want to copy.

declan_roberts a day ago | parent [-]

You don't have to copy them. You have to beat them.

notJim 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This was the same logic that was used when building nuclear weapons, and many of the scientists involved in that tried to find a different path (most notably Niels Bohr). I think we would be in a much better world if they had been successful. It's good that we're trying again w/ LLMs.

mvelbaum 2 days ago | parent [-]

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genxy 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People in those countries do have qualms, they are people after all and they choose to work in other fields.

tensor 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The US is sure becoming an unfree scary place just like Russia. Keep it up following those role models!

gambiting 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't know if you're being sarcastic(sounds like you are!) but indeed a lot of engineers left Russia after the war in Ukraine started as they didn't want to be drafted and didn't want to contribute to the war effort in some way, even if indirectly. Of course, many stayed or even willingly help. See how many engineers from Iran work abroad too, for moral and other reasons.

The point is - this happens everywhere, it's not just some weird western thing.

cooper_ganglia 2 days ago | parent [-]

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griffzhowl 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

National security can mean protecting a society founded on the values of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

It can also mean facilitating a militaristic surveillance state.

Not necessarily the same things, and at some point we might have to choose who's side we're on

wood_spirit 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just curious, did the move on Greenland and Iran have national security interest? And is it economical or life threatening?

cooper_ganglia 2 days ago | parent [-]

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wewtyflakes 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We, the people, ostensibly get to say what these security interests are. Also, the security policy executed on by the state is not some immutable monolith. One can agree or disagree with it as it changes over time, and hopefully, influence its direction to arc towards goodness.

d5lt5 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I did and helped d33ps33k. You are welcome!

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