When was the last time you sat in a self-driving Tesla? Today it's actually really good. It's gotten so much better over the past 5 years.

Yeah, but people have been saying this exact thing for literally a decade. "Have you tried v18.419.18304, bro? It's so good, another six months and FSD will be solved!"

Lunacy.

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tristanj 2 days ago | parent [-]

It's very relevant. In my experience, I've noticed the majority of FSD critics (either for Teslsa FSD or Waymo) have never actually tried riding in one, or last tried it nearly a decade ago when the technology was immature.

Products change. Apple maps was a terrible product a decade ago, but today it's arguably better than Google maps.

pjc50 never replied to the question, so I'm going to take that as a 'never tried it or haven't tried it recently'.

	▲	senordevnyc 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, maybe it's different now, but the Tesla stans burned their credibility many years ago. Also, the evidence still suggests that FSD is nowhere near as safe and capable as Waymo, so I find it pretty uninteresting tbh. Tesla seems like just a washed-up former side project of a drug-addled billionaire who has moved on from trying to build things to trying to destroy them. You can spend your money however you want, but I'd rather drive myself than give Musk a penny.