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MarkusQ 3 hours ago

Not adjusting for inflation and quality really damages the integrity of the comparisons, as does cherry picking your base examples.

Taking your first, the $47K 3 bedroom starter home with a yard. In 2026 that would be $200K (cumulative inflation is a little over 4x[1]); picking a random US city[2] and looking on Zillow[3] I find that...yeah, you can get a comparable home today.

There are certainly arguments to be made about tradeoffs, quality issues (though those aren't as obvious as you might initially suppose[4]) and so on. But just listing unadjusted price comparisons like this is disingenuous.

[1] https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1980?amount=1 [2] https://www.randomlists.com/random-us-cities [3] https://www.zillow.com [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4C62HC1HSo

briffle 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Not adjusting for inflation and quality really damages the integrity of the comparisons, as does cherry picking your base examples.

But then they also need to make sure to also match salaries to inflation too.. Because wages have not kept up with inflation, which is the reason for most of this..

MarkusQ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> wages have not kept up with inflation

This is not true.

https://econofact.org/factbrief/fact-check-have-inflation-ad...

psadauskas 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just "adjusting for inflation" isn't good enough. Minimum wage was $4/hr. Now its $8. An elementary school custodian could afford a mortgage, a car, support a family of 4 and go on vacation on just that single income. They had healthcare and a pension. You could work over the summer and pay for a year of college at a state school.

Yes, the house now is more energy efficient. The car is safer. But if the price of everything went up 4x-10x, and the median income only went up 2x, AND you have to pay for more things that used to be included, then everything is more unaffordable, inflation be damned.

maldusiecle 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In 1979, 13% of US hourly workers were making the federal minimum wage. By 2025, that number had dropped to 1%.

Inflation-adjusted wages have been at worst stagnant. Inflation-adjusting prices is necessary for these comparisons to be meaningful at all.

This is a website for engineers, you should be embarrassed to be posting these completely innumerate comments.

neaden 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"An elementary school custodian could afford a mortgage, a car, support a family of 4 and go on vacation on just that single income. " Can I ask what you are basing this off of? I'm fairly skeptical of this claim.

syel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks for the feedback. The whole experience/site is mainly satirical/humorous. It's not inflation adjusted cause I didn't want it turn into a finance piece tbh, but you're definitely right, if inflation adjusted most cards need to be re-built to account for inflation and better judge what we're getting today vs what we used to get

pjc50 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's about money! How is it not a finance piece?

xattt 3 hours ago | parent [-]

“JUST A PRANK, BROS‼”

syel 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I like to call it satire actually

neaden 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So you're making fun of people who think the past was more affordable?

syel 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

no, cause I personally think the past was more affordable

neaden 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't get the satire then.

wang_li 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

He has a belief that is mainly supportable only if he cherry picks specific examples that don't contradict his belief system.

pjc50 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not adjusting for inflation makes it look completely stupid.

There's one good effort - comparing a car to the salary of a car-worker. But it only has half the comparison (what are today's car workers earning?). That's the comparison that Marx would recognize: how long do the people making something have to work to buy the thing they made?

alex43578 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is the implicit expectation that people making something should have some correlation with their ability to buy that thing?

The assembly-worker making a Civic and a 7 Series BMW are doing effectively the same thing, but the BMW assembler shouldn’t be getting paid 3 to 4x.

MarkusQ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

The reference to Marx and (implicitly) the labor theory of value renders the GP unserious. Just looking at the people doing the assembly (and not all the people in the supply chain), ignoring the time aspect (I doubt there's any product that costs more than one of the people assembling it would expect to make over the time it would take them to single-handedly create the product from scratch), and so on.

It's a nonsensical position, meant to invoke a certain sort of feels, and nothing more.

syel 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Will review the numbers this week and see how I can update all numbers to adjust for inflation while keeping the satirical angle

pjc50 3 hours ago | parent [-]

"The summer job" card gets this exactly right and is a good example.

I'd paste the text, but you've somehow disabled select/copy/paste, UX strike number two.