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adgjlsfhk1 2 days ago

note that many (most?) THC DUIs have very little evidence. thc stays in your system for at least a month, so it's very hard to tell how many of these are actual DUIs vs cops deciding to pull over a (usually black) person and make up some signs to justify an arrest+drug test

defrost 2 days ago | parent [-]

> so it's very hard to tell how many of these are actual DUIs vs cops deciding to pull over a (usually black)

It's easier if you look at (say) Australian road traffic enforcement statistics; they have different rules than the US, have the "right" to check for DUI without having to make up a reason, and operate by funnelled road blocks that check everybody (or every second car, etc, depending on flow rates and breath check speeds).

They also 'verify' in the sense that any driver can challenge and get a "better than road side" test back at the station under supervision (blood tests with saved samples for court challenges, etc).

esseph 2 days ago | parent [-]

> They also 'verify' in the sense that any driver can challenge and get a "better than road side" test back at the station under supervision (blood tests with saved samples for court challenges, etc).

Blood tests can not determine THC intoxication.

defrost 2 days ago | parent [-]

I'm not seeing the part where I said that.

DUI (in Australia) refers to "Driving under influence" and focuses on threshold detection rather than degree of impairment (although relying upon other studies that allege to correlate the two).

In the case of drug impairment, "better than roadside swabs" evidence for court challenges includes samples of urine, breath, hair, saliva or sweat.

Blood samples, rather than breath tests, are typically for alcohol.

Independent of roadside pass / fail on swabs for drug / alcohol levels Australian RTA can still ask drivers to complete an impairment test; assessing balance, coordination, and overall behaviour.

On challenge, this is something that can also be further assessed for court evidence; eg: are their perceptions of impairment because (various) medical conditions that cause slurred words, etc.