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culi 11 hours ago

And they are in much of Europe! Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Austria, Belgium, Iceland, Italy, etc. Even France has over 80% coverage

zetanor 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I understand that Europe doesn't have many mandatory union arrangements.

In Canada, unions are often shop-wide with no mechanism to opt out, which makes them very sticky and allows them to grow predatory if they can maintain enough corruption or apathy. I'm led to believe that many US states have similar problems, but that's only based on how American unions are portrayed in news and fiction.

xienze 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And what has that really bought them? The wages are laughable compared to the US where you'd THINK us non-unionized tech workers would be paid minimum wage. And the famous European healthcare and long vacations are more a function of the government than anything the unions have explicitly bargained for.

culi an hour ago | parent [-]

You mean to tell me unions can make a government actually responsive to its people? Gee wouldn't that be nice to have here