| ▲ | philippta 2 hours ago |
| In the recent Dwarkesh Podcast episode Jensen Huang (Nvidia) said that virtually nobody but Anthropic uses TPUs. How does that add up? |
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| ▲ | csunoser 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I am not sure what context Jensen said that. But midjourney uses tpu. Apple uses tpu. They are no other frontier labs that use it, but Google + Anthropic is 2 out of 3 frontier lab so..... You could reasonably say that "A majority of frontier labs uses TPU to train and serve their model." |
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| ▲ | arw0n an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > How does that add up? He's been saying whatever is good for Nvidia for years now without any regard for truth or reason. He's one of the least trustworthy voices in the space. |
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| ▲ | luckydata 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Jensen hallucinates more than any llm, he just speaks without thinking all that much about what he says and he generalizes a lot. Trying to hold him accountable to imprecisions and gross simplifications is just going to frustrate whoever tries without changing one bit of his behavior. |
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| ▲ | bandrami 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You're asking why a businessman would downplay the use of a competing product line? |
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| ▲ | sarchertech 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Who is the other frontier lab other than Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google? I thought they were ahead of everyone else. |
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| ▲ | DeathArrow an hour ago | parent [-] | | Folks who make Deepseek, Qwen, GLM, MiniMax, Kimi and MiMo. | | |
| ▲ | sarchertech 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah I thought all of those were generally acknowledged to be a little behind the big 3. | |
| ▲ | SwellJoe an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They're at the frontier of last year. They compete with Opus 4.5. They don't yet compete with current frontier models. They'll presumably catch up, there is no monopoly on talent held by the US. And, that's more true than ever now that the US is actively hostile to immigrants. Scientists who might have come to the US three years ago have little reason to do so now. | | |
| ▲ | lanstin 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It's kind of hard to say this unless you go out of your way - the scaffolding for interacting with the raw model is a lot better now for many tasks. Is it that 4.7 is so much better than 4.5 or claude 1.119 is so much tuned to squeeze utility out of the LLM despite the hallucinations and lack of self awareness etc. Certainly the current products are great, but I think it's hard to separate the two things, the raw model and the agent workflow constraining the model towards utility. | | | |
| ▲ | sfink 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nit: scientists have the same reasons to do so now, the same as ever. They just have additional reasons to not do so. But even that distinction is only temporary, since we're determined to piss away any remaining research lead that draws people in. Hopefully the next administration will work at actively reversing the damage, with incentives beyond just "we pinky-promise not to haul you at gunpoint to a concrete detention center and then deport you to Yemen". |
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