I have zero reasons to recomend paying 800 euros for a mobile SOC with 8 GB, and the Apple experience is pretty much hit and miss, it certainly isn't worthwhile the extra cost when one needs to top it up with Apple Care, and get lemons like buterfly keyboard, Tahoe and many other issues that get had waved because "It is Apple!".

Then you get the nerds that get Apple because "I know this, it is UNIX!", when in reality what they wanted was GNU/Linux, and then complain all the time it isn't, because they skipped the class where UNIX, POSIX and all differences throught history were explained.

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notepad0x90 16 hours ago | parent [-]

mass market consumers don't even know what "SOC" is, and would pretty much disagree with the rest of your sentiment. I think I was clear on the context being for them, not tech enthusiasts like yourself.

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pjmlp 16 hours ago | parent [-]

They will disagree when they find their phone powered experience to be sluggish, after a couple of Electron garbage powered apps are running, which they also don't care are making use of.

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commandersaki 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Mate, it'd smoke the FW12 especially when it comes to energy efficiency and heat. Also FW12 has a fan.

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pjmlp 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Hardly something that people check down at Media Markt.

	▲	commandersaki 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		People considering the Neo aren't thinking they're being constrained by a mobile SoC when it performs just as well as M1 with a slightly reduced core count. The fact that they're selling incredibly well is a testament to that.

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notepad0x90 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There has been plenty of reviews and comparisons of the neo in this area, they disagree with your take. Comparing with similarly priced alternatives, it comes out on top. Every reviewer is trying hard to prove the neo sucks by comparison, it helps contrarian takes get better views.