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csallen 4 hours ago

> One defining constraint must shape the product... Minecraft is built entirely from blocks. IKEA is flat-pack, self-assembly furniture.

I've been calling these things product primitives. I can't remember where I heard that term, but it refers to things like...

Blocks in Notion. Messages and conversations in Telegram. Frames and layers in Figma. Tweets in Twitter. Cells and sheets in Excel. Tools and layers in Photoshop. Commands in a CLI.

I think what makes for good product design is having a very small number of primitives. A bad product doesn't know what its primitives are. Or it has a very large number of primitives. It feels like everything in the product is some unique thing that works in its own unique way. So users have to learn a ton of different top-level primitives/concepts. It's confusing and intimidating and hard to teach. Ideally you just want one or two or three main primitives.

The complexity/power in an app comes from choosing powerful primitives that have depth, that are composable, etc. You can do a lot with Notion blocks. You can do a lot with Excel cells. You can do a lot with a CLI command. You can do a lot with a Minecraft block. There's depth there.

azhenley an hour ago | parent | next [-]

We used to call this “concept count”. You usually want to minimize the number of core concepts that make up your product. I’ve also heard it as the “nouns and verbs” of a product.

argee 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think this philosophy might be oversimplified. Tana has basically two primitives (bullets and supertags) and manages to be devastatingly complex to use to the point you have to watch hours of tutorials to do very simple things. Conversely Google Maps has a lot of “primitives” but the UX is fairly tight for 90% of use cases.

ffsm8 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Doesn't Jira only has one primitive: the ticket. Everything else just augments it. You could say that these augmentations are separate primitives, but then the same would apply to all tools in the other cited examples like Photoshop too

whh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Vaguely feels like "Atomic Design" but applied to engineering.

rgbrgb 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

what is Tana?

mkl 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

This I think: https://tana.inc/

Seems like there's quite a bit more to it: https://outliner.tana.inc/learn