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fallat 7 hours ago

I feel like foregoing the whole PCB would be better, and just wirewrap, or "free-air" solder.

ssl-3 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Perhaps.

This has an advantage that the board itself is printed.

After molding and firing (say) 50 of them, those that survive will all look and work about the same. Painting the conductive traces into the printed pathways is an easy thing to get right. And then the parts are soldered on, which is also easy to get right.

The design and the pathways are predefined, and then mechanically copied (printed) over and over.

This reduces the skill required for final assembly.

Wire-wrap and point-to-point methods certainly also work, but they come with increased potential for errors at assembly so getting them right tends to require more skill. Reducing assembly skill is part of how PCBs became commonplace to begin with.

And those other methods still generally want a board of some kind to mount stuff to, anyway, just for practical handling and durability reasons. It might be a perfboard. It might also be a chunk of scrap wood from the shed (we can even add nails and Fahnestock clips to it for fixturing and connectivity!). Whatever it is, it probably still resembles a board.

But with this clay method, the provision of that board is inherent in the process. That has a distinct bit of elegance to it.

(And if we cast all logic and reason aside, then remember: This is supposed to be art. It's OK that different methods of circuit assembly exist, and it's even OK if some or all of them are better in some way.)

amelius 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How would you handle LQFP or BGA packages?

namuol 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

https://youtu.be/edERx4x5eY0

https://mitxela.com/projects/soldering_wlcsp

svens_ 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What do you think the minimum pad clearance is for the clay?

You can dead bug an LQFP if you absolutely have to…

Brian_K_White 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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kennywinker 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How well did Albert Hanson’s flat foil board handle BGAs?

Instead of looking for flaws, try looking for the insight. I’m reminded of this blog post that was on hn recently https://scottlawsonbc.com/post/shooting-down-ideas

amelius 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not looking for flaws. Looking for solutions!

Brian_K_White 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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dang 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can you please stop posting so aggressively and breaking the site guidelines? You've done it repeatedly in this thread and we're trying for something else here.

If you don't find the current post/comments gratifying of your intellectual curiosity, there are 29 other threads on the frontpage, and if none of those are of interest, you're certain to find something interesting at https://news.ycombinator.com/front and the links back from there.

In the meantime, if you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

kennywinker 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn't invoke bgas, that was someone else.

I can easily explain how this art process could handle BGAs. As mentioned in the article, you could swap the indentation+hand-painted circuit traces with screen-printed traces on a flat surface.

Defending one idea isn’t shooting down another. Point to point wiring has its uses, for sure. But calling it an “idiotic ash tray of clay and paint” is shooting something down. But again, i think you’re conflating me with an earlier commenter.

foltik 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What a rude and shallow thing to say about a creative project.

lostlogin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It’s interesting how angry this makes some people.

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