| ▲ | pzo 5 hours ago |
| The difference you barely have to show you physical ID - mostly only when interacting with bank, signing document, government. I never got asked when buying alcohol and if asked at least I would only let to have a look instead of snapping a picture. Imagine if suddenly every grocery, pharmacy, petrol station, parking place, restaurant, bar etc. now would ask you for your ID AND would snap a picture and store in their database - you wouldn't be happy about it. |
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| ▲ | maccard 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you want an example of how this will be abused by companies, https://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/aug/12/airport-shops-... |
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| ▲ | vladvasiliu an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's pretty common to have to show some form of state-issued ID when entering bars and the like in France if the bouncer thinks you're underage. Ditto for buying alcohol. Hell, in the US I've had to go back to the hotel to grab my passport to enter a bar. My French driver's license and balding head weren't enough. But you do have a point about "storing the picture". I think that's why it's very important for whatever solution is chosen to be something that proves you're old enough without saying who you are. |
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| ▲ | jeroenhd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why would they? The only reasons to show ID I can think of is when watching porn or maybe when buying alcohol online, though I doubt stores will want to risk driving customers away with that. |
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| ▲ | dwedge 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Or using social media, signing up for any account where you can post content, and soon creating an account on your own device. As for why would they, the same reason there are hundreds of tracking cookies on every site. | | |
| ▲ | pmlnr an hour ago | parent [-] | | The same social media that stores everything down to your keystrokes? Sure, the problem is needing a gov ID, sure. |
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| ▲ | throwthrowuknow 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Consider that stores create reward point systems specifically for the purpose of connecting a customer profile to purchases. |
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| ▲ | rglullis 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yeah, imagine if every convenience store had CCTV security filming everyone 24/7. Oh, wait... |
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| ▲ | pzo 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | they don't know necessary who are you and what are you buying. I don't think also for big shops with many customers that techonology and reliably do instance segmentation - this is not face id. | | |
| ▲ | rglullis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They don't, but there is a significant chance that their "security solution" uploads all the data to a cloud provider (Amazon, Google, Oracle) which will be more than happy to analyze the data for them. | | |
| ▲ | jonathanstrange 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's possible but would be completely and highly illegal, the EU regularly fines companies violating GDPR, and those fines are not trivial at all, they can be quite hefty. | | |
| ▲ | rglullis 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was talking about the reality of the US, but even if I was talking about Europe: how does the GDPR even enter this equation here? I was never asked for consent to have my face recorded when I get into a shop in Germany. Were you? | | |
| ▲ | ragall 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Security recordings fall into the category if legitimate need, and have to be deleted after a short while. | | |
| ▲ | rglullis 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | How is that enforced? | | |
| ▲ | carlos22 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Its not. Especially when using US Cloud services. And people do that. Hell even government run schools us GDRP-violating software and force the students to BUY them. The law is nice, the reality is different... |
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| ▲ | SiempreViernes 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Doesn't stop the stores from posting clips of you embarrassing yourself online and your acquaintances giving your name away for clout. |
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