> I think we will loose a lot of people who never were passionate about programming

Anecdotally, what I’m seeing right now is the opposite. People who don’t care about programming are joining, while those who do care are getting tired of the bullshit and leaving. The good programmers are the ones leaving, the hacks are extremely happy to use LLMs.

When shit hits the fan, there won’t be many people left to clean it.

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trick-or-treat 5 hours ago | parent [-]

So you see people who don't care about programming, joining and getting comfortable with vscode and claude code and devops?

Because it seems to me like there's a lot of coding-adjacent things they still need to be able to do even if they never look at a line of code.

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latexr 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Those examples are nonsensical. None of those are necessary to get working code. The VSCode example is particularly baffling. Firstly, I’m sure you understand there are other editors people use for code; secondly, I know even people who don’t code who have picked up VSCode for text editing and are fine with it.

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trick-or-treat 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you haven't dealt with a lot of non-coders. 90% of the world will not be able to even open a .py

	▲	latexr 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> I think you haven't dealt with a lot of non-coders. And I think you should avoid making assumptions about people you know nothing about. That is so far from the truth it’s not even funny. > 90% of the world will not be able to even open a .py Which is nowhere near my argument. I’d appreciate if you engaged with what I said or not at all.