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imjonse 8 hours ago

They're OSS projects in a friendly competition, both working towards the goal of having alternatives to big closed source players. No need for jabs.

Palmik 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think "friendly" and "publishing benchmarks" are at odds with each other.

Model makers (both open and closed weight) typically publish benchmarks against other models and when they do not, people rightfully call them out.

Including comparison against "other OSS engine" is just not helpful (what if it's a sandbagged baseline like HF Transformers?)

rfoo 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem here is both aimed for Day 0 support, both got embargoed preliminary model weights and arch, and I don't think they have access to the other sides embargoed code.