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whatisthiseven 2 hours ago

Odd, why can't Trump be both cause and symptom?

Surely, he has made things uniquely worse, and in ways that would not have happened without him.

timschmidt 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The undercurrent of dissatisfaction which led to his popularity was already there. And has been for decades. Do you blame the drought, the dry kindling, or the match?

You don't get the wildfire without all three, and anyone paying attention can observe the looming danger and the inevitability of ignition. Who lights the match matters. But is only a small part of the contributing circumstances.

BLKNSLVR 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I assign a fair portion of the blame to a consciously self-serving, opportunistic match, yes.

fzeroracer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Trump is at least in part directly responsible for said undercurrent of dissatisfaction. He's been part of the wealthy scammer class for decades, providing the drought, kindling and matches. The fact that he's the most visible of the bunch and popular thanks to being on TV doesn't remove his deep connections to the root cause.

The wealthy have been manufacturing these issues for decades now by buying up the entire media apparatus and gutting systems to the bone so that they can squeeze out a bit more blood to drink.

chiefalchemist 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do what you gotta do to feel good. But giving a free pass to all the other contributors - the ones loudest about who is to blame - is foolish, at best. To each their own.

Put another way, in terms of the political status quo, what changed between his two term? Hint: not a damn thing. That ain’t his fault. Your bias has blinded you

XorNot 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The American voter openly and obviously said "wow. Despite the numerous management failures, more of that please?"

People didn't vote for change, they voted for the same thing they had 4 years ago that changed absolutely nothing.

To quote Vaas from Far Cry 3: Do you know what the definition of insanity is?

BLKNSLVR 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, Trump is a figurehead for 'everything wing with the US' but he's become that figurehead by being incredibly and publicly active in the promotion of 'everything wrong with the US'. He deserves blame well above those who voted for him.