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Neywiny 3 hours ago

I don't see why it would. Thunderbolt is not a USB standard

aleph_minus_one 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Thunderbolt is not a USB standard

Concerning Thunderbolt 3: USB4 is based on the Thunderbolt 3 protocol [1].

Concerning Thunderbolt 4: "In July 2020 Intel announced Thunderbolt 4 as an implementation of USB4 40 Gbit/s with additional requirements, such as mandatory backward compatibility to Thunderbolt 3 and requirement for smaller notebooks to support being charged over Thunderbolt 4 ports.[14] Publications such as AnandTech described Thunderbolt 4 as "superset of TB3 and USB4" and "able to accept TB4, TB3, USB4, and USB 3/2/1 connections"." [2]

Concerning Thunderbolt 5: Intel considers Thunderbolt 5 as an implementation of USB4 Version 2.0. [3]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USB4&oldid=134742...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USB4&oldid=134742...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=USB4&oldid=134742...

Kirby64 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thunderbolt 5 and USB4v2 are the same thing now. They both support 80gbps and pcie pass through.

aleph_minus_one 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> Thunderbolt 5 and USB4v2 are the same thing now. They both support 80gbps and pcie pass through.

Not completely true: Thunderbolt 5 demands some capabilities that are optional for USB4v2.

Kirby64 2 hours ago | parent [-]

From a protocol/bandwidth level, it’s essentially the same though. Thunderbolt 5 has some more guarantees for power and display, but the data rate of the two is the same.

stevex 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Doesn't it run over a USB-C shaped wire? If you're trying to understand things that plug into USB-shaped ports it seems at least worth mentioning.

DiabloD3 2 hours ago | parent [-]

To be fair: You should refer to these as Type-C cables, as they carry things that are not USB protocol.

The sole exception should be made for "charge only" cables, which can, and should, be referred to as "wired for USB 2.0". These cables "shouldn't" exist, but I also don't want to buy a $30 cable just to charge my phone.