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mytailorisrich 14 hours ago

A pack of cigarettes in the UK has a huge warning that smoking kills/causes cancer/etc with a shocking picture of a potential actual outcome, too. That's in addition to all the public campaigns about the risks of smoking.

The argument that smokers were victims who didn't know hasn't held any water for decades...

vrganj 11 hours ago | parent [-]

They're addicts. Whether they know it's bad or not is irrelevant.

If you ever struggle with addiction, you'll know that decision making is no longer well-reasoned or thought through. Such is addiction.

mytailorisrich 4 hours ago | parent [-]

No, the addiction is irrelevant because you need to go over and ignore the anti-smoking campaigns and what's on the packs to become an addict in the first place. That's the point. It is a personal decision to start and it is a personal decision to continue (although it is of course not easy to stop once you are "addicted")

vrganj 2 hours ago | parent [-]

To start is a dumb decision one did at some point in the past. To continue is one that is no longer in your control once the addiction has taken hold.

It's not a personal decision to stay addicted. Let me tell you from experience. I wanted to stop. Yet, the cravings didn't let me until I had external forcing factors. Why should we deny other addicts that same help?