People hate admitting the truth. Everything you said here is utter bs that people say to lie to themselves.

I’m sick and tired of AI hatred without people facing the truth. People hate AI because AI is on a trajectory to replace them and become better than a human. That is the fundamental reality.

Look don’t get angry at me. If you are on HN chances are you’re most likely delusional and completely wrong about AI. The majority of HN called vibe coding useless and said LLM have no potential. Now my company won’t even hire someone who hasn’t used Claude and I haven’t touched a text editor or ide in half a year. Same with the teeming hordes of experts on HN who said driverless cars will never come. All wrong. People on this site need to stop jumping on these band wagons of stupidity and pointless blame games.

Can we talk about that rather than blame corporations for being what they’ve been since before AI? Yeah corporations are psychopaths and corrupt and nobody cares. Same story till the end of time. We are on a cusp of a paradigm shift and your skills as a programmer are about to be utterly trashed because an AI is on trajectory to dominate your skills.

Face reality.

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Starman_Jones 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>> People hate AI because AI is on a trajectory to replace them and become better than a human. That is the fundamental reality.

Let’s explore this fundamental reality a bit. The “and” necessitates both parts of the clause be true, but would people hate AI if it became better than them but didn’t replace them? That’s an easy no; Big Blue and AlphaGo didn’t cause mass hatred, and machines have been broadly better than humans in some capacity for centuries - that’s literally why we build machines.

Would humans stop hating AI if it replaced them, but wasn’t able to become better than them? Again, no. So the second piece is both incorrect and unnecessary, and what we’re left with is “People hate AI because it’s on a trajectory to replace them,” which is accurate, but not exactly revelatory; many people have already come to this same conclusion, including in this very comment thread. So the good news about your face reality line is that you’ll find a lot of people already facing that direction alongside you.

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threethirtytwo 10 hours ago | parent [-]

>but would people hate AI if it became better than them but didn’t replace them? That’s an easy no;

Yes they will. Jealousy. But they'd never admit it. What are you proud of? What skill do you value and identify yourself with? Say AI did it 1000x better than you but some law was in place to prevent it from replacing you. You'd love that law, and you'd make up some excuse to to hate AI.

>Big Blue and AlphaGo didn’t cause mass hatred

Excuses. Just think a little rather then finding some obvious surface level reasoning that fits within your own bias. First nobody hates those things because it's only a select niche that takes pride in their chess or go skills. Those people will hate alphago if alphago was a direct challenge to their identity as a player. But laws are in place to prevent that as in tournaments only allow humans. Why are such laws in place? Because go and chess are just games. They produce no intrinsic value so it doesn't hurt the bottom line if you restrict AI in that case.

This isn't the case for programming and any other field out there that can be replaced by AI. Ai will be directly attacking a business skill you use to pay the rent and it is currently challenging my identity as a programmer. And laws to restrict this will be actively fought against because monetarily and utility wise there is actual real world benefits to AI.

But why do I even need to spell this out to you? You're not mentally deficient. You're not stupid. All of this is obvious. Why do I have to literally tell you why your example is biased when it is OBVIOUS. It's because you're lying to yourself. You subconsciously avoided the obvious reasoning above. You chose convenient rationale to fit the narrative YOU want. Nobody hates "alphago" lol, did you see that koreans guy face when alphago fucking dominated his ass? Come on bro.

That is the reality. And you are denying it. When there's two people in disagreement and one of them is lying to themselves... how do we know which one it is? The lie is so convincing that both people believe in it.

I'll tell you the best way to determine this. The best way is to see which persons reasoning aligns with their identity and biases. Which person is constructing a logical scaffold that is optimistic? Because lies are told to cover up the horrors of reality. Guess what? I'm a programmer. I hate AI. But I cannot lie to myself. You? Probably made up all kinds of lies about how you're not afraid of AI taking over your job cuz AI can't do this... or that... or whatever bs to help you sleep at night.

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		I don’t think your argument around jealousy holds as much weight as you think it does. I’d encourage you to revisit your logic and work through the implications for yourself. Does it need to be AI to provoke this response? Would another human being better provoke this same response? What conditions actually trigger it? I’d also recommend you read more about Lee Sedol’s matches against AlphaGo. I don’t think your description of it syncs up with the actual event, and certainly isn’t supported by his post-AlphaGo performance. Finally, most of your post isn’t really supporting the point you’re trying to make. In particular, “Ai will be directly attacking a business skill you use to pay the rent” is just restating what I’m arguing. If you misunderstood my position that badly, it would be good to take stock of your own position, because I really think that the core of it - people hate AI because it’s threatening their livelihood - is pretty obviously correct, and you just need to remove the breathless hyperbole from your thesis to get something that most people already agree with.

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nmeagent 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Now my company...

Which company is that? Do let us know so I can make sure to never be your customer.

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hackable_sand 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The public also hates the lies and the threats about the tech

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salawat 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>People hate admitting the truth. Everything you said here is utter bs that people say to lie to themselves.

Stares at poster silently from a lotus position waiting for the enlightenment lightbulb

>I’m sick and tired of AI hatred without people facing the truth. People hate AI because AI is on a trajectory to replace them and become better than a human. That is the fundamental reality.

Nu-bie, come, sit, be silent & reflect. When was the last time a tool was made that truly replaced the wielder? Without the wielder, a tool is nothing, without the tool, the wielder still strides as a beacon of divine potential.

>Look don’t get angry at me. If you are on HN chances are you’re most likely delusional and completely wrong about AI.

Continues staring in silence awaiting the moment of enlightenment

>Now my company won’t even hire someone who hasn’t used Claude and I haven’t touched a text editor or ide in half a year. Same with the teeming hordes of experts on HN who said driverless cars will never come. All wrong. People on this site need to stop jumping on these band wagons of stupidity and pointless blame games.

Nu-bie. Does the man disappear because the machine exists? Or is he redirected according to his nature? What nature consumes a man abandoned by his tribe? Surrounded by hoarders of the necessities & means of life? Reflect on this. Reflect also on the potential capabilities of a group of people that through attention to detail, great patience, and acts of artifice on behalf of their fellows once enabled the animation and thinking of rocks. Think very carefully about this.

>Can we talk about that rather than blame corporations for being what they’ve been since before AI? Yeah corporations are psychopaths and corrupt and nobody cares. Same story till the end of time. We are on a cusp of a paradigm shift and your skills as a programmer are about to be utterly trashed because an AI is on trajectory to dominate your skills.

The corporation is as a cup. It's direction is controlled and agency guided by men. It is the oldest form of AI, with us for hundreds of years. The only thing keeping it in check being the occasional times of great strife during which generations of men wrestle the beast, to remind ourselves of wherein our problems truly originate.

>Face reality.

Nu-bie, it is time for you to resume your chores. You have not been enlightened.