I hope this isn't a precursor to removing support for other AdBlock addons(MV2) citing native availability of an AdBlock engine and then gradually shift to acceptable ads etc.

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OsrsNeedsf2P 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The day Firefox drops MV2 is the day I find a new browser. We're already at <1% usershare, it's not like there's safety in numbers here

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pogue 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'd be genuinely curious what you could switch to that still has MV2 because, AFAIK, Firefox is the last holdout.

Brave still allows you to install uBlock & some other extensions that should technically not be supported under MV3, but they still ship it with support for those.

Just heard about Helium browser, which is just dechromium + uBlock and it's still beta.

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nuker an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Firefox is the last holdout.

Nope, FF is being infiltrated by adtech for last year or two. Last holdout is Safari now :)

	▲	rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		>Last holdout is Safari now Why do people say crap like this... Safari was the first browser to completely remove mv2. From all the major browsers Safari has the worse adblocking experience and support for adblocking extensions...

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cookiengineer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I'd be genuinely curious what you could switch to that still has MV2 because, AFAIK, Firefox is the last holdout.

My last hope is ladybird right now, I don't use Firefox or Chrome as my main browsers anymore, and use them only within temporary sandboxes. Without history, without cookies, without logins for the most part.

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el_io 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ladybird supports MV2? I had no idea they have extensions.

	▲	laserbeam an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Ladybird is many years away from being usable by a casual human. The hope is it turns out to be a great browser eventually.

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pogue 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You use ladybird as your primary web browser? And it works?

	▲	cookiengineer an hour ago \| parent [-]
		For the most part, it doesn't. It's not a consumer ready browser, but a pretty nice little rendering engine. If you use ladybird as bindings, it's a bit unstable right now because they are refactoring a lot of parts in the codebase. I built my own tools on top of it, mostly to use internet websites and selfhosted kiwix archives with my local agentic env. I guess what I am saying is that I don't have a primary browser anymore. Not a browser where I just can trust it that it doesn't do shit with my data. Being able to selfhost kiwix is a superb internet experience if you build your own search dashboard for it, I can fully recommend it. Have to merge my things upstream with ZIMdex when I have the time (probably around June). [1] WIP https://github.com/cookiengineer/exocomp [2] WIP https://github.com/cookiengineer/zimdex

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zephyreon 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Could definitely be writing on the wall that MV2 support will be deprecated in the future but imo not necessarily a bad thing if it’s not actively developed anyways. Maintaining both MV2 & MV3 support isn’t easily sustainable long term when you factor in the need to prioritize other features.

That said, if this is writing on the wall I’d hope they’ll listen to the community this time and allow the engine to be extended / make it such that a block all ads feature always exists. I’m cautiously optimistic given Mozilla’s track record just over the past year-ish. They have released some great new features that help bring Firefox closer to feature parity with other browsers.

I am a Firefox hopeful and recently switched back to using it as my daily driver when Arc went belly up (but mainly for uBlock Origin support).

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charleslmunger 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>Maintaining both MV2 & MV3 support isn’t easily sustainable long term when you factor in the need to prioritize other features.

There is no feature Firefox provides that is more differentiating than ublock origin. As long as pages load and security issues are patched it is the reason to choose Firefox as a browser. What would they prioritize over it?

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zephyreon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I’d like to see more investment in their new profile manager. It feels pretty barebones at the moment. Arc had the ability to link profiles to “spaces” and you could easily switch between them without opening a new window. It was very nice to so easily swap between personal, work, & side business.

	▲	collabs 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The multi user containers are also very nice.

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tosti 11 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why does everything have to be "actively developed"? Sometimes a program is just done. Better not touch it. I actually do downgrade packages when "actively developing" causes regressions. Not curl or anything sensitive like that, but local programs definately yes.

In case of the extension manifest, that's probably layered on top of the JS engine which does get attention and scrutiny. It's not like an API needs to be updated. If you'd always do that, nothing would ever be interoperable and we'd likely have a hard time trying to communicate.

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Dylan16807 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Maintaining both MV2 & MV3 support isn’t easily sustainable long term when you factor in the need to prioritize other features.

The feature that better adblockers need is one callback that's similar to one that's still in V3. It's not difficult to keep if it's your own codebase.

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striking 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Try Zen! Firefox fork with Arc-like UX.

	▲	pjjpo an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Zen is great and still mostly Firefox. I use standard Firefox on Android and everything syncs without hassle. The experience is so much better that personally cannot imagine using Chromium anymore. Of course I do wonder if the entire Firefox ecosystem is sustainable long-term funding wise.