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troglodytetrain 2 days ago

I guess thats one way to look at it. But thats morality for you.

I'd just suggest maybe get less involved with the internet and as the kids say these days 'go touch some grass'.

Because, frankly, I don't think the average, or even marginal Venezuelan would agree with you at all, as, they have actually had to deal with this dictator.

kaveh_h 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The dictator is labeled the ”dictator” because they’re under fire by US not because they’re an actual dictator. Look at gulf countries and the other dictators that US is partnered with like Al-Sisi in Egypt and the King of Jordan.

Besides the regime did not change. It’s the same regime, the only difference is that US benefits (or some individual people or companies in the US) from this version.

troglodytetrain 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is ridiculous cope. At least, I myself can provide some sources:

Human Rights Foundation: https://hrf.org/latest/hrf-condemns-fraudulent-election-resu...

Carter Center: https://www.cartercenter.org/stories/center-finds-democracy-...

CSIS: https://www.csis.org/analysis/can-maduro-pull-mother-all-ele...

ErneX 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Plenty of evidence of huge human rights crimes under the Maduro regime, investigations made by United Nations. He also stole the elections.

You can disagree with how he was removed but don’t give the guy legitimacy please, he’s a thug.

pasquinelli 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Because, frankly, I don't think the average, or even marginal Venezuelan would agree with you at all, as, they have actually had to deal with this dictator.

why do you think that? when was the last time you were in venezuela? first you tell someone to get off the internet for a bit and touch grass, then you gesture vaguely at what you think... which came from where exactly? different parts of the internet? cable news? where?

ErneX 2 days ago | parent [-]

Immense majority of the country wanted him out. This is not even an argument at this point. You could argue Chavez was very popular for the most part, but Maduro? Even the communist party of Venezuela wanted him out.

pasquinelli 2 days ago | parent [-]

an immense majority wanted him kidnapped by america? either you've inadvertantly shifted the goalpost or i'll need something to back that up, because i find that hard to believe.

ErneX 2 days ago | parent [-]

I can speak just for myself and all my relatives and friends who wanted him out. I’d hoped it could be through other means but I’ll take this. Hopefully this leads to a transition and we get back to having a normal country like we’ve been yearning for so many years now.

Go ask a Venezuelan if you know one. We tried everything and only received violence. Personally Maduro got what he deserved. The regime is still there I know but it’s a bit of justice.

watwut 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Because, frankly, I don't think the average, or even marginal Venezuelan would agree with you at all, as, they have actually had to deal with this dictator.

They still have to deal with a dictator. Just one that is willing to pay extortion money to America. Venezuela did not had elections and has still the same regime in the same power.