> We're talking about a product built to make people's lives worse while extracting wealth from them that get them addicted as well.

That's most of the products being sold today, you think the most for-profit companies sell things and services in order to improve the world? They're selling stuff because they want to make money, if they can make someone addicted + extract wealth from them, then in their world that's a no-brainer.

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malfist 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> That's most of the products being sold today

That's just not true at all. The fruit I buy is designed to make my life worse? The vacuum cleaner? The lawn mower? The workout equipment? The standing desk for my office? The clothing I buy?

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embedding-shape 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, literally all those things are decreasing in quality because the companies producing and selling these want higher margins. Have you not noticed the sharp drop in quality and durability in made stuff compared to 20-30 years ago? Almost all those things are worse and lasts less today than they used to.

	▲	Edman274 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Do you feel and have the subjective experience of feeling like you're arguing in good faith right now?
	▲	bombcar 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		There's some cases where that may be true, but they listed a few: * fruit - I can get any fruit anytime in the year, and it seems fine * vacuum cleaner - my Miele is still running ten years later and still available new * The lawn mower - the M18 mower cuts great and uses no gas and just works - much better than the previous PoS * workout equipment - I don't have much here, but my rowing machine is still going strong * standing desk - the uplift desk seems quite good quality * clothing - this might be the only one, but even the walmart crap I get is better than the walmart crap from a decade ago