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mmastrac 4 hours ago

I don't understand how prevalent Aspartame and other artificial sweeteners are when they taste so bad. They don't even taste sweet to me, just "wrong" in a way that permeates my entire mouth.

Is this a genetic thing?

RHSeeger 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's just a preference thing. They taste bad _to you_, not to everyone.

Even among people that like artificial sweeteners, people have preferences. I prefer pink and my wife prefers yellow. When I'm forced to use yellow, I just can't enjoy the drink as much.

And, yes, it's a totally different kind of "sweet" for each of them. So if you're expecting "sugar sweet", it won't be that for the others.

mocamoca 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Cilantro really tastes different from one person to another (relative to the aldéhyde content of cilantro and genetic variations). I don't know about sugar and aspartame but saying that it is purely a "preference" looks a little bit presomptuous to me.

To the previous poster: do other intense sweeteners (stevia, saccharin, sucralose) taste sweet to you?

mmastrac 2 hours ago | parent [-]

None of them do with the exception of Stevia, which sort-of kind-of tastes a bit like rum, if I could describe it.

mmastrac 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think you understand. That's like saying mud is a preference over sugar. It's not sweet to me. It's not even in the same ballpark. I'd have to completely re-orient my taste buds because it literally tastes like dirt or dust without a hint of the same flavour.

tsimionescu 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You're conflating two different things. Unless you have some very weird genetic condition, it does taste sweet to you. That is, it activates the same sweet receptors on your tongue and in other parts of your mouth that sugar activates - and more or less to the same extent (relative to concentration).

However, sugar isn't simply a sweet taste. It also has some amount of flavor, and so do the artificial sweeteners, and it is these flavor differences that you (and many others) dislike. Flavor is something that happens in the air tract, and is far more complex than taste.

mmastrac 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It absolutely does not. The places on my tongue that taste sweet and the places that taste aspartame are completely different (the latter strongly at back of my throat, sugar strongly on my tongue).

RHSeeger 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Fair enough. It's certainly not like that for most people though; which falls back to the _to you_ issue.

Maybe, as you questioned, there is a genetic component. Or just "something different about you" (not necessarily genetic).

kakacik 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No, this is pretty common in folks who don't drown their taste buds and systems in tons of it every day. Then you feel it anytime its there, since its pretty rare and its disgusting chemical bleh, one feels it fully.

Its a bit like smoking cigarettes - to many non-smokers, its disgusting beyond description, smearing face with old feces wouldn't be worse. To many smokers its mild, pleasant, they enjoy it with lunch etc.

wasabi991011 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I almost never drink artificial sweetened drinks.

But when I do, I barely notice a difference, and it doesn't really bother me.

Why is it so hard to believe that people's taste perception vary?

ErroneousBosh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's just a preference thing. They taste bad _to you_, not to everyone.

That's great, but it still means I can't have soft drinks any more.

wasabi991011 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most soft drinks are not made with artificial sweeteners.

Where are you that the only available soft drinks are artificially sweetened? Never been to a restaurant or fast food place or grocery store that only carried the diet/zero and didn't carry the standard coke or pepsi.

ErroneousBosh an hour ago | parent [-]

> Most soft drinks are not made with artificial sweeteners.

All soft drinks are contaminated with artificial sweeteners.

ubercow13 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

What artificial sweetener is in regular Coke?

throw4847285 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you keep drinking them, you'll likely acquire a taste. I didn't used to like any artificial sugar flavors, but now I've grown accustomed to them.

ErroneousBosh an hour ago | parent [-]

It's not "I don't like the taste".

It is "these taste like they're contaminated with antifreeze".

They taste like they've been intentionally adulterated with the stuff they use to stop people drinking poisonous things.

m4ck_ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I felt the same way, they used to taste awful to me, now I only notice a slight difference between Dr Pepper zero and regular. Maybe I just got older and my taste buds degraded?

cestith 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A lot of the “zero” soft drinks are sweetened differently from the “diet” ones. There’s often a mix of different sweeteners so you don’t get too much of any one aftertaste.

The one we’re trying to avoid the most in my household is sucralose. Genotoxicity and upregulating inflammation and oxidative stress are bad things. Accumulating unchanged in the environment and resisting biodegradation is a bad thing.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12251854/

ChrisRR 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Dr pepper zero doesn't use as much aspartame as dr pepper diet. It uses more of a mix of different sweeteners

mrweasel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What I find weird is the assumption that everyone would like soda with artificial sweeteners, but I guess other don't taste it the same way. There are restaurants where I just give up and just get water. Strange because I assumed much of their profit came from drinks.

I know a few people like myself, that won't drink artificially sweetened soda, but we are the minority. Mostly people are confused when you tell them you don't like the taste, and that you drink so few sodas that the sugar doesn't make any difference in terms of health anyway.

I am convinced that something weird is going on with Pepsi Max though, the about of that stuff being consumed is absolutely insane. At events it not even close, it's Pepsi Max that people primarily consume.

codazoda 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It might be.

I felt this same way all my life, until 6-months ago, when I found a flavored sugar free mix I actually liked.

I returned from vacation in Mexico, where I was drinking Coke with sugar. When I returned home, regular Coke, made with Corn Syrup in the U.S., tasted off. I decided to take the opportunity to stop drinking it.

I tried dozens of low calorie drink mixes and found one I could tolerate. I did some research and all things pointed to that being healthier than my Coke habit.

My tastes have changed again since starting this, but I don’t drink Coke anymore.

One thing that might have helped was drinking aspartame in my coffee, where its aftertaste is harder to detect.

I should mention the only good side effect I’ve had is a little less bloating, probably a result of avoiding carbonation. I haven’t lost any weight by the change. It’s also much easier to make a diet work when I’m not consuming 800 calories from Coke everyday.

sfjailbird 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's an acquired taste.

moooo99 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Maybe, while I can relate to this feeling when it comes to some sweeteners commonly used in baked goods, I genuinely habe a hard tile distinguishing between sugar and sweetener containing beverages at this lokng.

RHSeeger 4 hours ago | parent [-]

For root beer, I can't tell the difference. For colas, the difference is staggering to me.

vasac 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Acquired taste. Ten years ago, I switched from a sugar-based soft drink to one with Aspartame - it didn’t taste great at first. Now the sugary one tastes awful, while the Aspartame one tastes great ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ottah 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I actually hate the taste of sugar in sodas after switching to diet for long enough. Taste is subjective and your preferences can change. That being said, saccharine is probably the better tasting of all of them, and the most maligned.

zamadatix 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The others are mostly focusing on wholesale differences between individuals but, for me at least, it more depends on how it's used as well. E.g. Diet Coke tastes disgusting to me compared to normal Coke (Zero somewhere in the middle) while Dr Pepper Zero tastes great, better than the normal version by quite a lot (in my opinion) even. Both use Aspartame.

AlexandrB 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's an acquired taste. I felt the same way, but when I started trying to get fitter a lot of protein supplements (protein drinks, protein bars, etc) contained artificial sweeteners. After eating these for a bit I got used to the flavour profile and even started to like some aspects of it.

The best comparison is beer. The first time I had it, I thought it was kind of gross. After trying it a few more times you get used to the bitter and fermented notes and the taste becomes more pleasant.

cwnyth 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've wondered this myself. The aftertaste on some of them is vile. The disappointing thing is that so many products use them when they reduce sugar, but sometimes I just want a reduced sugar product without any additional sweeteners. That seems hard to find these days.

robotomo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I've been curious about the just-less-sugar idea myself. Like how would a Coca-Cola "dry" taste? Maybe the fact that nobody is offering this just means it doesn't taste good.

felooboolooomba 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It tastes disgusting to me.