| ▲ | littlecranky67 4 hours ago |
| > A regular provider charges a regular commission but will not work with you, while another will want a commission 10 times higher and will agree, but may stop working with you at any time. I know I will get downvoted for this because it is an unpopular opinion, but this exactly the reason why we need bitcoin as a means of payments without any middlemen involved. |
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| ▲ | brohee 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The miners are the middlemen, and they can chose to take your transaction or not. Should bitcoin ever be actually used for payment, it's not to too far fetched to think miners could be forbidden to validate transactions involving a blacklist of addresses... |
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| ▲ | littlecranky67 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Partly true, the miners decide. However, "the miners" is not a single person or group, but are distributed world wide under control of different people and pools having different incentives - albeit, making money is the far most common incentive. I.e. a miner can reject your transaction, but you can gradually increase the fee (replace-by-fee) until someone picks it up. Plus, on-chain transactions would NOT be used to pay 10€/Month subscriptions. The lightning network (a bitcoin layer-2 network) handles transactions instantly and with lower fees. No miners involved in individual payments here (only for channel creation). |
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| ▲ | jfrbfbreudh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yes, because bitcoin transaction costs never surge in price. |
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| ▲ | littlecranky67 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | They don't, because you would transfer them via lightning, of course. No one want to pay their porn subscription with traceable onchain transactions. | | |
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