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spaceman_2020 2 days ago

> It's not Americans, it's educated people who believe in personal liberties.

I find this attitude deeply parochial and colonial. Who are these so-called "educated people" (most of whom would be in western developed nations) to decide what sort of governance system a country should have?

The democratic revolution in America and France came from its own people. If the Russians or the Chinese want democracy, they'll get it on their own

Western hand-wringing about the "lack of democracy" in foreign (usually poorer) countries is just concern-colonialism. I think most of these educated people should focus on their own countries and let the rest of the world be

wiseowise 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> If the Russians or the Chinese want democracy, they'll get it on their own

There's literally a saying about USSR (which by proxy now applies to Russia) which roughly translates to: half the population in prison and another half as guards. You can't get it when army, police and whole government apparatus is aimed against it. Times have changed, people are not willing to die en masse for a change when one single cop can kill a crowd.

They literally killed 132 hostages during a saving operation [1], how many do you think will die when they start shooting the crowds?

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis

sofixa 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> I find this attitude deeply parochial and colonial. Who are these so-called "educated people" (most of whom would be in western developed nations) to decide what sort of governance system a country should have?

Do you think only people in western countries want a democratic system of governenance for their country?

> If the Russians or the Chinese want democracy, they'll get it on their own

Both of them tried it, but were denied.