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menaerus 2 days ago

A good machine will always need time to heat up since the temperature stability, which is very important for getting good espresso shots, correlates with the weight of the device. For most machines this means 30-45 min or so no matter what the manufacturer is saying and in practice this isn't much of a problem once you plug the machine through a smart plug which you can program to turn on the device before you're getting up in the morning.

Secondly, adjusting pressure is almost a completely unnecessary feature so I'm not sure why do you chose to point that out as a major differentiator. 9 bars is just fine. In similar category goes the PID for adjusting the temperature. While on the paper it sounds cool in reality you will not use them 99% of the time. There's many prosumer machines which don't allow you neither of those and are still perfectly fine machines.

julianz 2 days ago | parent [-]

La Marzocco Micra is up to temp in under 10 minutes and will stay there all day, it works very well indeed.

menaerus 2 days ago | parent [-]

Do you know what is it that it allows for such a quick warm up? Small boiler? Saturated group? Maybe my comment is more relatable to HX machines then although I don't quite get how is it possible to warm up so quickly - the machine is still a 20kg piece and you can't beat physics with such large thermal mass.

julianz 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

250ml brew boiler with a small saturated group, and a separate 1.6L steam boiler. It's definitely aimed at a home environment but will easily keep up with making several drinks in a row. Compared to previous HX machines I've owned, it heats up much quicker and is more stable. I think not having a massive lump of brass like an E61 style machine helps a lot.

Daishiman 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They have separate tanks for keeping water heated up to temperature wit a much smaller volume and don’t use saturated groups so the total hot mass is much smaller.