| ▲ | spaceman_2020 2 days ago |
| I've been baffled watching America double down on the same strategy even when it failed to produce results They sanctioned the hell out of Huawei and now Huawei is bigger than ever America is just not able to digest the idea that another country can be as good, if not better, at innovation |
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| ▲ | hirako2000 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Deeper than the inability to digest. The incapability to comprehend it. China's fall in the 19th century came at them for the same reason. How could these European savages be stronger, thus better than us? Our intelligence service must be out of their mind. |
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| ▲ | nipponese 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because it worked on Japan in the 80s and 90s and sometimes “Americans” have a hard time telling the two cultures apart. |
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| ▲ | segmondy 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | It's not about 2 cultures, but 2 timelines. China has seen the game and adapted, they will not respond with prior losing responses. Meanwhile, America is playing the same moves because it worked in the past. | |
| ▲ | spaceman_2020 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Weird why Americans would think that the coercion that worked against an essentially vassal state with no independent military would work against a non-aligned nuclear powered state with a strong, independent military Sovereign and non-sovereign nations have completely different decision matrices for dealing with external threats | | |
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| ▲ | jatora 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm no huge fan of America, but claiming China is as good or better at innovation is asinine. It costs 100-1000x less manpower, money, and time to hug the heels of innovators than to actually pioneer. Say what you will about America but they absolutely lead technological innovation and it's not even remotely close. |
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| ▲ | spaceman_2020 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, because the Americans had a 150 year headstart China had literally 60M people die in a famine when JFK was president and Elvis was the biggest thing. The country was basically farmland and basic industries 40 years ago Why would you even compare their capabilities today vs a country that has been a sovereign nation for 250 years? You look at trajectories, not the present | | |
| ▲ | GorbachevyChase 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | China is thousands of years old. Angles and Saxons were running around with tribes in their furs when the Chinese had sophisticated social structures. The different trajectories probably have much more complex explanations than tenure in their current political structure. | |
| ▲ | jatora 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think of it like this: The industrial revolution was intense and powerful, and kicked off in Britain, Europe, and the US.
Throughout that revolution, there were countless mistakes, countless branches that had to be clipped as we found ways to increase power and efficiency. 50-100 years after that, every other country has a perfect blueprint to follow. That is far cheaper. Far more efficient. Far easier. And they get to leverage experts and contractors from the innovating regions as well. This is the story for China, and Asia in general. |
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| ▲ | 2ndorderthought 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| America has been making short term and short sighted moves to try to widen a gap that cannot sustain. They have chosen the wrong strategy out of fear and greed. Cooperation is the right strategy. Isolationism will not work in the long term except for maybe the handful that drove it. The irony is that it's an anticompetitive and anticapitalist move to do what they have been doing, so it's not even on principal. |
