You’re right… but that’s on the rest of the world not getting their shit together.

It’s this sort of example (and not properly supporting Ukraine, and not agreeing how to collectively deal with migrants, and not agreeing how to coordinate defence, and myriad other examples) that highlights what a pointless mess the EU is. It’s not a unified block - it’s 27 self-interested entities squabbling and playing petty power games, while totally failing to plan for the future with vision.

The EU could/should have ensured that a European equivalent to OpenAI or Anthropic could thrive, and had competitive frontier models already; instead, they’re years and countless billions behind.

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simgt 2 days ago | parent [-]

The EU pouring even more billions in this would just have meant pouring billions on US tech. China is winning on all fronts at this game because of the embargo, they end up even more vertically integrated as a result of it.

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mft_ 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

So China innovated around GPU supply issues (because they had to) but Europe couldn't/wouldn't?

Hard to not see this as another sign of European stagnation...

	▲	simgt 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		In no specific order: - Europe was first to dig up its fossil sources of energy, the bulk of it is long gone - Europeans got used to roughly clean air, soil and water, heavy industries are polluting - the embargo is forcing China to vertically integrate, the Chinese have no alternative, Europeans (think they) do

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benterix 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> The EU pouring even more billions in this would just have meant pouring billions on US tech.

Which is crazy given that ASML is European.

	▲	simgt 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		So is Zeiss, and probably a lot of others in TSMC's supply chain. It still looks like the bulk of the money is made by companies higher in the stack like NVidia and AWS.
	▲	8note 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		ASML is basically american though. american tech operationalized in europe