| Easier said than done, surprise: apt, who we know and love, is redirected to Snap for an ever-increasing number of packages. "Don't use Snap", you say? I'll do you one better! Skip Ubuntu. 'Just' use anything else more suitable. Debian is an excellent replacement being upstream, but I hold no illusions over undeclared requirements. |
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| ▲ | throw0101a 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Easier said than done, surprise: apt, who we know and love, is redirected to Snap for an ever-increasing number of packages. With 24.04 at least, doing an 'apt purge snapd' seems to be quite useful. Is that not sufficient? | | |
| ▲ | bravetraveler 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > With 24.04 at least, doing an 'apt purge snapd' seems to be quite useful. Is that not sufficient? For the moment, later pulling a package that is redirected would undo that effort. As the peer points out, too, that would likely rip out stuff you're using without having already configured preference. One could maintain a boundless list of configs pinning repository preferences... or they could use a distribution that doesn't have a predisposition towards Snap. | |
| ▲ | kuschku 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | On 25.10, removing snap gets rid of firefox, chromium, cups and many more packages. | | |
| ▲ | throw0101a 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > On 25.10, removing snap gets rid of firefox, chromium, cups and many more packages. For servers, this may not be a problem for us. Currently on 24.04, so will have to see how things are ≥25.10. | | |
| ▲ | bravetraveler a day ago | parent [-] | | Some server stuff is hit too! I learned about this pattern through the BGP daemon 'frr'. No idea how many server packages are/may be captured by Snap, but it's worth being aware of. Imagine my surprise. Remove it and bam, no networking. | | |
| ▲ | throw0101a 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | Seems to also be available as a Debian package: * https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=frr in addition to a Snap: * https://snapcraft.io/install/frr/ubuntu Doing a quick test on 24.04: on a system without snapd installed, `apt install frr` installs packages and not any Snap stuff. Will have to see about 26.04 when I get a moment. | | |
| ▲ | bravetraveler 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | Thanks for digging in, as I mentioned earlier in this thread/another [lost track], I haven't messed with this in at least two LTS releases. Good to see it's aware at install time; this wasn't always the case. How about the inverse, purging? At one point, removing Snap would lose BGP announcements [through the loss of the 'frr' software/service it was managing]. Anyway, I'm willing to believe most of my install/dependency-resolution pain was inspired by [and limited to] 18.04 or whatever was immediately after. We had a fleet of systems inadvertently moved to Snap, only learned through a loss of announcements on removal. edit: Tested on a 24.04 box I had laying around; removing Snap does indeed still rip out things one might want: $ sudo apt purge snapd
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Stopping snap.frr.ripngd.service
Stopping unit snap.frr.ripngd.service
[...]
Stopping snap.frr.zebra.service
Likely fine in your case, where if memory serves, you're removing Snap in the image/provisioning stage. Cooks in busy kitchens may still be surprised, however. The real problem appears solved: 'you' get the software 'you' asked for. |
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