Whatbaoutism at it's finest.

Have a peek at the fredom indx and the press freedom index for China. Guess where they stand?

You know about the chinese internet firewall.

You can't trust any data from the CCP.

And please don't equate the aberration that is the Trump administration with "regular" US administrations (and this is coming from a non US person).

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rglullis 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

People in China live under totalitarian rule, that much is true.

But how free is the average North American, where getting sick can bring you and your family financial ruin? Where the "free press" is controlled by corporations who are also the main source of campaign funding for politicians? Where their urban spaces are designed to require you to have a car and promote complete atomized individuals?

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hajile 2 days ago | parent [-]

All these things are from the private sector and may be left behind if you like (do younger generations even listen to corporate news?)

The real issues are government surveillance and it increasingly getting involved in my personal matters, but it’s still more free than any other country I could go to. Look at countries in Europe like the UK without true freedom of press arresting people for mean tweets and giving them years in prison.

	▲	rglullis 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		> All these things are from the private sector Are they really? All of the cases I listed are consequences of Public Policy, no exceptions.

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amunozo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Regular US administrations that commited war crimes in half the world for decades. But apparently it only matters what they do in the US.

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Revanche1367 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Indexes made by Europeans and Americans to congratulate themselves are not reliable.

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culi 2 days ago | parent [-]

Exactly. Even if you don't buy into western biases, it's heavily reliant on subjective perception surveys. Hardly proof of anything

	▲	MiiMe19 a day ago \| parent [-]
		We can talk about all this stuff on an American form, but good luck talking about any of China's issues on a Chinese Forum. Lets not talk about how China regularly kills Catholic priests and bishops. Anyone who tries to glaze China is a propagandized fool.

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rhubarbtree 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You’re right, for now, but I think trump will try to turn America into a dictatorship.

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_blk 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

..you forgot to mention that any technology in China, foreign or domestic, can and will be used for and to the benefit of the -military- party.. But like someone posted: "not perfect" fits the bill.

Check out the Sean Ryan Show with Palmer Luckey on China and military tech.

	▲	wookmaster 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Ok? The same can be said about the US
	▲	Thlom 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Same goes for every country on earth?