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ywvcbk 2 days ago

Modern China isn't exactly totalitarian though and US is rapidly converging with China in that regard anyway.

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bwv848 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

How totalitarian is exactly totalitarian? I asked chatgpt and it gave few points

- Control goes beyond politics

- A single, all-encompassing ideology

- No meaningful private sphere

- Mass mobilization and propaganda

- Extensive surveillance and repression

Seems like China is ticking all the boxes.

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drcongo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Honestly thought you were listing traits that the US has now till the last line.

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Levitz 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

In what universe does the US not have "meaningful private sphere"?

	▲	AntiUSAbah 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Meta, Google and co control all your private data. GDPR is a european thing not an american or chinese thing. CIA/FBI have their own massive data centers (see snowden) inkl. their own older bigger palantr style software. Elon Musk was able to connect a Starlink server to your data and no one cared. He and his Duche aeh sry doge baby boys were able to access and download all Social Security Numbers. If someone knows were Putin and all the other world leaders are at any given moment, I would bet its USA first than China if even because i don't think China cares that much about it than USA does. And everyone out of scope of this, lives probably in some rural USA town were no one cares for you at all anyway, but thats the same thing as in China.

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bwv848 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Really laugh my ass off, so much whataboutism and American centrism when the debate is whether China is trustworthy on AI. Given your ignorance you should go and do your research, but I will help you a bit here.

- Control goes beyond politics

state corporation monopoly, 党支部 in private sector, crackdowns on NGOs and charities.

- A single, all-encompassing ideology

Party led, mandarin speaking Han Chinese nationalism, blended with Little Pink's unquestionable support for Xi and the party.

- No meaningful private sphere

社区网格员

- Mass mobilization and propaganda

We saw mobilizations on Chinese social media, attacking celebrities who don't openly say anything the party wants them to say. Mobilization in real life is rare though, cos it had shown it can backfire.

- Extensive surveillance and repression

Do I really need to explain this?

	▲	drcongo 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Which comment was this supposed to be a reply to?

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MetaWhirledPeas 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You forgot

- No freedom of religion

	▲	MetaWhirledPeas 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		Dear flagger, did I say something incorrect?

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DiogenesKynikos 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> No meaningful private sphere

Have you ever been to China? Everyone has their own private lives. It's no different than any other country in that respect.

In China, you rarely interact with the government in daily life. Most people are just living their lives.

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odiroot 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Just as long as you don't openly mention the "three Ts".