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notabotiswear 2 days ago

You can de-snap Ubuntu itself.

Dunno about the this release, but till 24.4 it was simply a matter of removing some packages then holding/masking the primary snapd one, followed by manually adding the official PPAs for Mozilla’s stuff (or just use the Flatpak).

Of course, there’s still the philosophical and long term issues with staying on a distro that’s promoting and continuosuly expanding the thing you dislike…

predkambrij 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is a bad strategy, I fell victim for. I configured so it would use apt instead of snap package, but canonical silently stopped shipping packages and I was running some packages that were not updated for a long time and debugging weird bugs, because I didn't assume that this was a problem. If one wants Ubuntu, one must accept snap. If you use apt with disallowed transition to snap, you might be stuck with old packages that were transitioned to snap.

My choice for now is Debian, didn't finish transition yet, very annoying to plan this in my schedule. I'll churn from Ubuntu after more than 15 years of daily driving... I also don't like ubuntu user with uid:gid 1000 in their Docker images. It's a cancer.

boneitis a day ago | parent [-]

+1. I recently picked up a secondhand Framework, and, after almost 15 years of holding out with Mint + MATE, berated myself for resisting change and put in an unreasonable amount of effort trying to modernize and reacclimate to Ubuntu + GNOME 3.

It was painful, with an endless laundry list of things to troubleshoot, tinker with, and add to my digital notebook in attempt to get anything resembling a personally ergonomic workflow.

I implore anyone to just go with Mint or anything else that takes care of ripping out snaps for you if you don't want snaps (but otherwise still like or are used to most things about Ubuntu). There were too many downstream and other issues, related and unrelated, for my sanity.

LtWorf 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is what I do, because on my work computer IT imposed Ubuntu.

I initially tried to just use snaps but firefox was crashing quite often so I had to go with adding the mozilla's repository and of course configure the fake "firefox" package that actually installs the snap to be low priority for apt.

satvikpendem 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Ubuntu keeps adding snap back again and again so I got tired of removing it each time. Someone said to try Pop!_OS so maybe I'll try that.

alecsm 2 days ago | parent [-]

You can disable that too and it won't be installed.

satvikpendem 2 days ago | parent [-]

Like someone else said, if I have to dig through settings to do that then I might as well use Windows. It's better to use something that doesn't even have snap in the first place via another distro than play cat and mouse with Canonical.

alecsm 2 days ago | parent [-]

I agree with you, that's why I don't like Ubuntu anymore. It's a system you have to fight against, just like Windows.

I was merely saying that you a couple commands you can uninstall snap and disable it from appearing ever again.