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throwaway2056 2 days ago

Just install Ubuntu and remove snap. We are doing this for our University pool etc and encountered no issues.

Make a list of all ppa before proceeding.

What is your use case?

satvikpendem 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The issue is them adding it back, sometimes even on apt upgrade, or silently installing it as a dependency for certain apps without mentioning it unless you look closely. That gets tiring after a while and I gave up on Ubuntu as even after having removed snap multiple times it always returned.

evdubs 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is my experience, too, and my solution has been to run Debian.

globalnode 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not listening to users is what drove me away from windows. Not a fan of snaps either (or forced windows updates). Recently re-tried linux going to debian instead, which i really like. Reminds me of the old dos days. Gnome was a no-go, kde was nice but too buggy, cinnamon turned out to be perfect. So here i am, on linux finally, enjoying having my computer back and playing around like its 1992 again.

leni536 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did you pin the package's priority or just apt removed it?

dspillett 2 days ago | parent [-]

I've not used Linux on the desktop for some years⁰ but as I move back this sort of thing is why I'm not considering Ubuntu². If I want to dig into settings like that to keep my preferences I might as well stick with Windows.

Yes, the control to be able to tweak the system to my liking is one of the attractions or Linux, but not when I have to in order to avoid behaviours that I don't want being reasserted.

[not that I expect nor particularly want Ubuntu to change, I just accept that I'm not part of its target audience and I'll be better served elsewhere - choice is a great thing!]

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[0] heading back there now as Windows11 is not happening on my home machines¹, I feel that I shouldn't have let Windows10 happen, looking back.

[1] aside from the laptop that came with it that I'll keep there for Office and DayJob compatibility for a while.

[2] Currently running Debian³ on the other laptop, main desktop will likely go that way if it isn't decommissioned completely, and I use a dock with the laptops instead.

[3] As that is what I use server-side more often than not.

throwaway2056 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Never happened in the last several years.

LtWorf 2 days ago | parent [-]

run "apt install firefox" and you'll end up with having snaps again.

bravetraveler 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Or, for a more server-appropriate example, 'frr'. The BGP daemon. It's not just desktop things like 'firefox' before someone tries that angle.

I haven't tried it in a few LTS releases and I'm away from a computer. Still, I'd bet this release continues the pattern. Fat chance Canonical decided to go back to more build targets/backporting/testing.

whyagaindavid 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/install-firefox-linux#w...

Do you mean you just don't follow instructions?

LtWorf a day ago | parent [-]

Why are you linking mozilla.org if we're talking about ubuntu?

evdubs 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Doesn't snap come back on the next OS upgrade?

I was using Ubuntu and installed the apt version of Firefox as the snap version would not open html files in locations like /var/tmp and would not work with USB devices. Every time I ran `do-release-upgrade`, all of that work would need to be redone. It was very annoying.

encom 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Ubuntu is the Windows 11 of Linux. You have to do brain surgery on it post install, to remove unwanted crap. At least there's the option of using a different distro.