One step further. Besides Facebook itself whqt has zuck been visionary about ? Instw and WhatsApp was bought. He thought chatbots was the thing in ‘17, then abandoned it for VR and metaverse, all the while chatbots start taking off. Every time he’s in an interview he talks like he’s some savant, really he got lucky with fb and done nothing since

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wjeje 2 days ago | parent [-]

Let’s go another step further!

The continual success of fb and instagram has not come from zuck but through glorified A/B testing on steroids whilst lighting employee’s asses on fire each quarter to move the metrics. Visionary genius? My ass. Only Steve Jobs proved he is worthy of that title.

Bro is a fraud. He always was - remember he stole the idea for fb. Thankfully he’s getting found out.

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philipnee 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

i argue that most ideas aren't necessary novel, so stealing idea isn't necessary bad.... e.g. i don't think google search was entirely novel, but was well executed.

honestly - meta has built quite a lot of cool things, but c-suite is probably to be blamed for what's going on today.

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wjeje 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

No the strategy of having a professional looking social space in the web, specifically focused on college folks solely was novel - this is what he stole and without this it wouldn’t have gotten to the place of success it is today. Knowing about the technology is no good without a solid strategy - with a solid strategy anyone can raise the funding to go build it. It’s easy to know what to build when you have a vision specifically of what you’re building into.

Nobody else has this targeted focus.

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degamad 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Search was not novel, but PageRank was novel.

	▲	philipnee 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		was it actually? I don't know the full technical behind this but wiki does suggest: "A search engine called "RankDex" from IDD Information Services, designed by Robin Li in 1996, developed a strategy for site-scoring and page-ranking.." This is before Google.
	▲	wjeje 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Correct

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subpixel 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Stealing an idea is different from lying to people in order to steal their actual business, which is more like what Zuckerberg did.

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hyperhello 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Did he really steal the idea? I thought the idea was just a message board for Harvard students. That isn’t novel.

	▲	wjeje 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If he didn’t steal anything why did winklevoss and another person at Harvard involved in the original project get a pay off…? Do we really need to discuss this? He tried to screw another founder - the Brazilian - who got a pay off and now has a reported net worth in the billions.
	▲	razakel 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The original idea was this: >I almost want to put some of these faces next to pictures of farm animals and have people vote on which is more attractive.