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ceejayoz 2 hours ago

We do a lot of risk/reward balancing in life. Maybe we can discuss specific cases, if you like, but "I want to whine about public health restrictions" and "someone got murdered by the state" perhaps have different risk/reward profiles.

We know ventilation matters. Public health officials flubbed this one pretty reliably; schools and doctors' offices should've had HEPA filters in every room instead of clorox wiping everything obsessively. Outdoor protests, in hindsight (and of either kind), were a nothingburger for COVID spread.

hunterpayne 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"someone got murdered by the state"

Notice how people that complained about this never ever quoted any stats? That's because its absurdly rare in practice. But the DFP policies did have a measurable impact. In Oakland alone, an extra (as in above the average for Oakland) 2500 or so murders have occured since DFP policies went into practice. So as someone who lived in Oakland, I want to you hear this. You are responsible for killing thousands because you didn't bother to look at the stats for violent crime. I literally saw people die on the street for the first time in my life because of you. 1000s, just in Oakland. That's you...you are responsible for that. I want you to know that.

ceejayoz 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

> That's you...you are responsible for that. I want you to know that.

Nah.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/16/oakland-homi...

"But as Trump was making these comments, Oakland was in the midst of a historic drop in homicides. The Bay Area city ended 2025 with 67 people killed, according to data from the Oakland police department, half of its 2021 high of 134."

Where is this 2500 murders thing coming from?

twoodfin 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

“I want my father to have a proper funeral with his family.”

“I want to visit my aunt in her nursing home.”

“I’d like to do some gardening in my Michigan backyard.”

The issue wasn’t risk/reward tradeoffs, it was who was allowed to make them and who was not.

ceejayoz 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I want my father to have a proper funeral with his family.”

Large indoor gathering.

> “I want to visit my aunt in her nursing home.”

Indoors and high risk population.

> “I’d like to do some gardening in my Michigan backyard.”

When was this banned?