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spwa4 6 hours ago

Let's compare with the Soviets and conclude the obvious: the US did retreat.

psadauskas 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The US has over 128 military bases in 55 foreign countries.

Russia has 12, mostly in former Soviet countries. China has 3.

JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> Russia has 12, mostly in former Soviet countries. China has 3

To be fair, you're comparing land powers–that tend to annex their holdings–with a maritime power, who tend to trade with and maintain favourable ports at their conquests/allies. So yeah, China doesn't have any foreign bases in Tibet. But that's because it annexed it in the 1950s.

Put together, America obviously has a larger military than China or Russia. But before Russia became a rump, the Soviet Union could marshall military resources comparable to–and for one decade, in excess of–those of the United States for much of the post-War era.

MiiMe19 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Me looking for the soviet military bases rn

EDIT: I completely misunderstood the context here, nevermind.

spwa4 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I live in the Netherlands. The closest one was about 260 km from where I live.

Of course, not any more.

throw1234567891 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To be fair, if you stand in the middle of The Netherlands, 260km in any direction and you end up outside of the country. Which base are you talking about?

MiiMe19 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I completely misunderstood the context of this discussion and revoke my mildly snarky comment. You are correct.

JumpCrisscross 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Out of genuine (and goodwilled) curiosity, how had you read it?

coldtea 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Was that on a country that went on a genocidal rampage just before and lost the war after killing millions all around Europe, which was decided to be divided in several parts, of which USSR got to control one, and which still developed into an independent country less than a decade later?

spwa4 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, but you're leaving out the other 9 countries the Soviet Union occupied, and immediately started killing the population to keep their conquests: Poland, Austria’s Soviet zone, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

By contrast, the US retreated. And also didn't start killing any population.

cogman10 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> And also didn't start killing any population.

Except for the populations in the global South. We spent a decade firebombing Vietnam and Cambodia.

coldtea 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Killing their population" as in executing some Nazi collaborators, of which there was no shortage in all, down to full cooperation? Like the ones involved in the Axis alliance and in the eastern front offensives that caused the deaths of millions of their own people?

>And also didn't start killing any population.

Yes, just Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, and anybody who leaned national sovereignity/left in the Latin America and later the middle east.