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therobots927 7 hours ago

The anti Palantir / anti AI / anti tech / anti billionaire sentiment is just way too strong. Far, far to many people post inflammatory things for the data collection to really matter.

Contrary to Karp’s fantasies, he will not have the capability to send fent-laced piss drones to every single person who’s ever criticized him.

In addition, the more data they have on us, the higher the odds they have something “bad”. So the irony of them increasing the volume of surveillance data is that it becomes pointless for people to “behave” in front of the camera once they’ve “crossed the line”.

wormpilled 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Doesn't really matter if you talk shit online, it's just passive aggressive pressure relief. What matters is you not being able to effectively protest or do anything about it.

therobots927 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Well actually it does make a difference. Precrime only works if they can separate signal from noise. Much like how the more users there are on the Tor network, the easier it is to blend in, overriding the system with “threat signals” just adds noise to their predictive models.

And in addition to that, talking shit online lets others know they’re not alone. It increases the odds of coordinated action.

The best propaganda trick up the CIA etc.’s sleeve right now is the illusion of inevitability and learned helplessness. Online voicing of opinions is critical to fighting both of these tactics.

Terr_ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Precrime only works if they can separate signal from noise.

IMO a lot of these debates depend on implicit assumptions about the threat and how it operates. For example:

1. Lawful Evil: They care about good data and going after the "worst" offenders, even if I might disagree about what is "bad".

2. Lazy risk-averse evil: The data needs to give them something to justify the existence of the program, they'll go after whomever is convenient.

3. Cover-your-ass evil: The data archive exists to let them make a plausible case for someone they've already decided to persecute for other reasons.

4. Fraudulent evil: The data archive is just to make it easier to fabricate a fake reason to go after someone.

5. Blatant evil: The data doesn't matter because they can just do stuff to you by fiat.

Some of those groups would be hampered by noise, some would benefit from noise, and the last just won't care.