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725686 3 hours ago

What has atheism anything to do with this?

pstuart 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think the value add of religion per the top comment is that it typically has a built in community and sense of connection. Churches bring people together in multiple ways.

I write that as an atheist who is more isolated than I'd like. I'm working on community and connection but it's challenging when one works remotely and relocates to a new town.

While I recognize the community value of religion and the comfort it brings people, it comes at a huge cost that far outweighs the benefits. IMHO, organized religion is a cancer on modern society. I think there's other ways to get the good parts from it but that's a team effort.

GetTheFacts an hour ago | parent [-]

>While I recognize the community value of religion and the comfort it brings people, it comes at a huge cost that far outweighs the benefits. IMHO, organized religion is a cancer on modern society. I think there's other ways to get the good parts from it but that's a team effort.

   Those who abandon the Path are evil.

   Those who reject the path to enlightenment must be destroyed!
Hallowed are the Ori!
BJones12 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Because the article's question is 'how did America get so sad' and the answer is 'because it lost Christianity' because Christianity makes people less sad.

rootusrootus 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Modern christianity in America is a primary contributor to my sadness.

xyzelement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Can you explain that?

rootusrootus an hour ago | parent | next [-]

To respond to another comment you just made, it is not "the" driver, as in the only thing that makes me sad. It is one of the big ones. Modern politics and the loss of American mythology broadly make up the remainder. These are all arguably intertwined, of course.

Let me first correct my statement, it is a little too broad. In my circle of family and friends, I can readily identify maybe three people, one of whom is now passed, who I think of as Christians in the biblical sense. That is to say, their actions seem to closely reflect an honest attempt to answer the question "What would Jesus do?" The vast majority of Christians in my family are Evangelicals, though, and to be fair this is who I was really thinking of. They like to ask that same question, and then answer it "See Leviticus."

Why do they make me sad?

Because they are judgemental jerks who pretend that the Bible is the most important thing in their life while simultaneously giving uncritical loyalty to a man who is the closest embodiment of an antichrist that I've encountered in all my years.

They have tried to declare ownership of the word "patriot" and defined it as loyalty to their faith, while making a mockery of it at every turn.

They have declared a huge swath of their fellow Americans as evil, not someone to be disagreed with but someone to be bullied, kicked out of the country, or worse.

They make me sad when they try to talk me into hating immigrants, or minorities, when they piously say they cannot in good conscience be associated with the few people in our family who are openly gay, when they pretend to be oppressed by The Alphabet Mafia, when they act all righteous up until the moment when someone close enough to them (like their own child) runs afoul of these 'values'. And even then, more than one of them have disowned their child instead of moderate their approach to faith.

It is corrosive, antisocial, and they cannot seem to stop themselves from dragging everyone else around them into the mud. All I have ever wanted is to be predominantly left alone in my beliefs but loved by my family. I don't put conditions on my love, I am sad when they put conditions on theirs.

majorchord 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In my experience many of them are breathtakingly judgmental hypocrites.

https://kepetersen.substack.com/p/the-gospel-of-hypocrisy-ho...

joenot443 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Hmm, in my experience it's been quite the opposite. I suppose it depends a lot on who you choose to spend your time with!

dh2022 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

In 2026, after Trump started the war in Iran, when he is doing all he can to cover Einstein’s accomplices, after providing legal cover for the ICE agents who killed two Americans, when he called the pope weak and said he is not a fan, Evangelicals still approve of his actions 69% [0].

Sorry pal, it is the white christians who are hypocritical. Their idol is a walking version of the all 7 deadly sins.

[0] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/02/09/white-eva...

xyzelement 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I am aware of this view, I am curious how it's the primary driver of sadness for the guy I replied to.

Erem 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For those who haven’t read it yet, article engages with this explanation and doesn’t come to the same conclusion

geremiiah 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People who are lucky in life never question their faith, because why would they? That's why Christians are happier. I grew up Christian, but I was not lucky in life. Christianity did fuck all to help me. Actually, I find more peace in my lack of faith now. But everyone is different.

eitally 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not even sure it's Christianity that makes people less sad (I would argue that it isn't). It's the civic community that churches often create that breed purpose & happiness. Churches aren't the only types of communities that do this, but they're by far the most common.

majorchord 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Religion is a symptom of irrational belief and groundless hope.

tock an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Perception is reality! Its great as long as it doesn't hurt others.

xyzelement an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Which is seemingly the superior strategy for happiness and survival.

iso1631 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

America is swinging even more towards theocracy -- the Military Prayer Meetings say killing people is a mission from god, the White House Faith Office 1) exists, and 2) says that saying no to the rapist running government is "saying no to god"

xyzelement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok. And in parallel the average American is disconnected from religion and increasingly miserable as per the article.

Erem 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, the article showed that non belief peaked a few years ago: There are more butts in the pews than in 2020.

But sentiment hasn’t recovered.

tempaccount5050 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Absolutely nothing. Religious people just tend to think they have it all figured out because they've been well trained in following tradition and avoiding questioning the status quo.

phil21 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Which would make someone less sad by default, no? I certainly sort of wish I thought I had it all figured out - I'd be way happier!

That's also an extreme oversimplification of religion which describes only a very small number of individuals of most if not all faiths.

The vast majority are not hardliners, and understand the larger component of religion is community and shared purpose.