| ▲ | raybb 3 hours ago |
| That's absolutely horrifying... Relatively small increases in speed dramatically increase the stopping distance and as such the danger of driving. Especially with a huge truck like that. That's why Amsterdam (with much more food traffic) has recently reduced speed limits a lot. > At 30km/h, the stopping distance of a car is 13 metres. At 50km/h it’s more than double at 27 metres. That 20km/h reduction is the crucial difference between a pedestrian or cyclist surviving the impact of an accident – at 30km/h it’s estimated that 95 per cent of pedestrians would emerge relatively unscathed. https://www.intertraffic.com/news/road-safety/amsterdam-30-s... |
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| ▲ | strongpigeon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| What you're saying is all true, but typically road design influence driving speed more than anything. Changing speed limits rarely has an impact on that (at least in the US). |
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| ▲ | rapnie 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not sure, but I think that in the Netherlands a municipality is not allowed to slap some 30kmh road signs along a roadway and call it a day. If the street does not 'communicate' that it is designed for that velocity, i.e. it is too broad, too many car lanes, then it must be adapted first to slow down traffic. There are a number of interesting design guidelines and manuals on the web, like CROW [0] for bicycle traffic, applied across the Netherlands. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CROW_Design_Manual_for_Bicycle... | | |
| ▲ | IshKebab 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | That's how it should work but the UK definitely doesn't do that. I don't think the US does either. |
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| ▲ | tedd4u an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One thing that may also help: an Amsterdam local told me that virtually all drivers there (and their parents/kids) are cyclists _also_, and so have more empathy for bikes and tend to operate motor vehicles safely them. | |
| ▲ | TulliusCicero an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Really you should do both. Otherwise you do end up with roads that feel like you have to go slow but nominally you're allowed to go fast (and some drivers will certainly take that opportunity). |
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| ▲ | lofaszvanitt 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | kennywinker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | So you’re consistent in your defense of victimless crimes, yes? If he was shooting heroin in his off hours, you’re ok with that? If he’s smuggling drugs regularly, you’re ok with that? If he’s engaging in prostitution, you’re ok with that? Just want to be sure you have a logically consistent position here. | |
| ▲ | kjkjadksj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You are right. Why drive at a speed where you can merely maim someone when you can drive at a speed that will inevitably explode them like a grape between the fingers instead? After all, no accidents. Yet. | |
| ▲ | burkaman 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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